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[Dead Corpse says]You [HairOfTheDog] are the one advocating restricting an adults Rights.

I guess I need to see where HairOfTheDog advocated all the restrictions the rest are saying she advocated. I think you are entirely misunderstanding her point.

[HairOfTheDog says]... choosing to carry a concealed weapon in a classroom situation does carry a certain responsibility to do it right...

How can that be controversial? The general principle is "Being free implies being responsible". As this applies to firearms it implies all the safety rules including maintaining control of your firearm -- NOT leaving it in the rest room or in your car if you're going to some idiotic place where you're not allowed to carry.

It also means war-gaming: How can you avoid situations where you might have to draw it. What are you going to do if you DO draw it? Are you ready to see pieces of skull and scalp hit the wall in back of your assailant? Are you ready to go to jail and to be charged and then sued?

Do you know how a serious adrenaline dump affects you. I know from experience that when the fur is about to fly I lose my voice, so I practice saying things that I might have to say the next time. Have you worked through how to avoid drawing your weapon too late? What do you say to someone who seems threatening but is, say 25 feet away? What do you say when that person laughs at you and mocks you to your friends for being paranoid? And then calls the cops and reports you for brandishing?

Have you decided how to handle the problem of carrying and drinking?

This is not about who should be permitted to exercise the right to bear arms. It's about a culture which alternates between swagger and responsibility-shedding dependency when what we need is a thoughtful assessment of the truly dreadful possibilities implied and to some extent embraced when one pops the p239 into the Milt Sparks and saunters out the door.

Yes. I've thought of all that. Yes, I've trained. Yes, I've even had to work my way out of a couple situations rather than "draw down". Yes, having a personal firearm on me has saved my skin, at least twice. Yes, I was in the Marines for 6 years and have trained as a civilian as well (look up Tiger Valley outside of Waco, TX to see what I mean). Yes, I'm well aware of the legal ramifications of using ANY arm for self defense.

The folks on this campus had no such options. Implying they are too immature to learn, or that their Rights are somehow less worthy of protection because of "climate" or their age, is counter productive. Instead of pointing out how "difficult" it is to work against such institutionalized bias, how about you help figure out how to change such attitudes?

BTW... fanny-pack Witness 10mm. El Paso Saddlery Snap-off Elite or an Uncle Mike's clip-on when I am at the range.