Posted on 04/18/2007 1:29:40 PM PDT by harwood
I’m sorry for the loss of your Mom but I’m so glad you talk to your daughter every day. That’s great!
Hurray!!!! It’s about time.
Hattie, that is what I just don’t get. I thought if there was a declaration of “danger to himself and others” then the patient had to undergo treatment inside a mental health facility. But somehow this just did not happen.
All we hear is that he was diagnosed with “depression” and given anti-depressants. Could there be an error in the reporting? Or more than one incident (one which was “danger to himself and others” and one which resulted in a diagnosis of depression)and the press is mixing it all up?
I guess the professor thought it may have a connection.. Seems there is a mish mosh of influences.
I believe it was actually Ibrahim (Abraham) the father of Ismael who wielded the ax.
LOL I know
There is no doubt in my mind that this outrage has been brought to us by liberal indoctrination (= programmed insanity).
You asked — “If you ever hear an explanation for this fact - please ping me with it, would you?”
You can see my post #419 and see if that may ring true...
Regards,
Star Traveler
When I see it I think of LAX. Doesn’t make any sense though.
You’re probably younger than I am, since you have kids in high school, but this was NOT always the case.
ROTFLMSO! :-)
When I see LAX I think of the bird that knocked the power out and then flew away.
There must be link somewhere I am sure, but I saw the interview on tv where the gun store owner answered that question when asked (that he paid with a credit card). It wa aired many times in the last few days.
The Ismael thing is add, but might have more to do with Melville than allah.
I haven’t noticed ISMAEL/ISMAIL AX in red on his arms in any of the NBC photos. Was he feeling particularly cryptic that day?
I still say that far too many people are reading something into the Ishmael Ax things. For all we know, it's a reference to an on line place to buy VT tickets and clothing. :-)
Someone made a decision to treat him outpatient, even knowing those facts. Today, this is what happens frequently. Maybe because of helath insurance or lack thereof, maybe political correctness since he was Korean, maybe someone just didn't care. Honestly I believe even twenty years ago he would have been treated. He probably didn't even take any meds they gave him and it does not appear anyone followed up with any doctor visits.
He's completely out of reality on that video and paranoid, ideas of persecution on and on.
:’)
When they are intervened, or sent for eval, they give them a choice. Either commit yourself for a course of treatment or you will be involuntarily committed, which goes on your record.
If they cooperate, the first consult is to diagnose the condition and prescribed medication. If the patient respond well or appears to respond well, they turn them loose with a followup appointment.
All this can happen in 3-5 days, and they don;t have a mechanism to make the patient return. That explains why he was able to buy a gun, and why he sought no more treatment after his initial diagnoses.
We once incarcerated them in boobie hatches, or nut houses, as we affectionately called them. The treatments were lacking then and they rotted in these places. They were all eventually closed.
Right now, it's safe to say that there are thousands of time bombs walking around, and nobody knows when or if they will go off.
Something else needs to be done, to protect society, but I'm not sure if we can do it. We still have not addressed AIDS.
It could be surmised that this is the price for living in a free society.
Knowing who someone is and knowing significant details about them are two completely different things. The guy had no friends, he didn't communicate to his peers... they had no idea what he was into. Whether it was the Bible, the Koran, Dungeons and Dragons or show tunes. The only constant among the people who knew they guy is that not a one of them knew the first thing about him.
I happen to know that there is nothing in the Bible or in the Koran that links Ishmael/Ismail with "AX".
Except that in the Koran, Ibrahim, father of the bastard Ismail (fleas be upon him), went to the temple armed with an axe to destroy the false idols. I have no idea if that's what Cho was referencing or not, but to say you KNOW there was no link in the killer's mind is patently absurd.
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