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To: eleni121

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or serious...

But yeah, Stalin wasn’t Russian, he was Georgian, and communism was invented in the west, not the east. Marx, a German, got his ideas from British socialists who wrote on the subject, and then wanted it to take hold in Russia. Not to say Russians are innocent, because they certainly aren’t—too many of them bought into communism and forced it upon the lives of people, and founded the USSR in the first place (Lenin).

I was just saying it’s unusual that the US would take the wrong side on this issue, while the Russians, ruled by the ex-KGB Putin, would take the right one.


12 posted on 04/18/2007 5:56:58 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (The best way to punish a man is to elect him to Congress)
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To: G8 Diplomat

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or serious...


Sorry I wasn’t more clear...I’m serious of course since I have actually read Russian history.

Let me just add to my previous statement.

Fact: those of Russian ethnicity are the ones who suffered the most during this hideous Soviet system.

Clarification: Lenin a Russian? His ethnicity is a mixed bag of German and jewish as well...certainly as much as there is if one is Russian. Read about him in LENIN by Robert Service. Read some Solzhenitsyn too.


13 posted on 04/18/2007 6:17:29 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: G8 Diplomat; tgambill
.....and communism was invented in the west, not the east. Marx, a German, got his ideas from British socialists who wrote on the subject, and then wanted it to take hold in Russia......

You forgot to mention that Soviet revolution was bankrolled by American bankers. It was not a Russian revolution at all.

It was an American import. It can be seen from the list of Politburo members from 1917 until Stalin purges. Only token Russians. For paltry $20M, investors got 10 000 destroyed Christian churches and over 20 000 000 000 people killed and starved to death. The mass scale destruction of Christian schrines and mass terror in Kosovo under NATO occupation thus has historical precedent. One who pays the piper choses the music.

Communism, the worst scourge of the 20th Century, was an American import.

The second worst, Nazism, was aided, abetted, armed and prepared by American banks and American businesses (J.P. Morgan, Ford, GM, Dupont, IBM und so weite)

Serbs suffered heavily from both. As a thank you note for saving 500 American and 100 Allied flyboys, Serbia got savagelly bombed on Easter Sunday of 1944 by USAAF. Bombing of Serbia continued until September 1944 and helped Communists gain control of Serbia. American support to Albanian Islamofascism thus has a strong precedent. Having in mind that Albanians were the hard core Nazis during WWII and hard core Communists after WWII make them understandable recipients of U.S. grace.

16 posted on 04/18/2007 6:42:15 PM PDT by DTA
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To: G8 Diplomat
quote: “Marx, a German, got his ideas from British socialists who wrote on the subject, and then wanted it to take hold in Russia”.

Not exactly right. Marx could never assume that communist ideas would be implemented in Russia before any Western European country. Actually it was Lenin’s, not Marx’s plan. Marx considered Russia underdeveloped economically and therefore - politically, and immature for so radical changes.

23 posted on 04/18/2007 7:13:51 PM PDT by tetuhe1898
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