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To: Peach
Hey, if Jim wants to ban all the freepers who think national security trumps social issues, he can have at it and you all enjoy that little echo chamber of yours

I cannot believe this thread either. It's like some firebreather hacked Jim Robinson's handle. There are lots of conservatives who don't believe in legislating our religion. We want everyone to be able to worship freely, not revert to the days of the Hugenots and others who were tortured and martyrs for their faith.

I'm a conservative doesn't want to go after sinners with a fiery sword but would rather them learn to love the Lord in their hearts, not through fear. I have yet to hear a good argument from the pro-life side as to why the Bible recommended lighter punishment for a man who caused another man's wife to miscarry than it did for a man who murdered the other man's wife.

Somebody seems to have drawn a charicature of Rudy somewhere and has everybody here falling for it hook line and sinker like some spam mail from Dobson or Rev. Wildmon.

The shrinking "my religion or no religion" types here who assert that only a fellow radical rightist has a chance in a general election are as deluded as those who voted for Ralph Nader.

A lot of conservatives find pro-military, national security the #1 priority but are libertarian in other issues with a small dose of governmental assistance for those truly in need. Judging from the conservative youth I meet today, my kids' friends, our numbers are growing.

793 posted on 04/21/2007 9:57:17 PM PDT by Spyder (The "Hate Giuliani Syndrome." Like Bush Delusional Syndrome, a cure is yet to be found.)
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To: Spyder

Exactly right!


806 posted on 04/21/2007 10:00:27 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Spyder; Jim Robinson
There are lots of conservatives who don't believe in legislating our religion.
If you think those of us trying to stop abortion are doing so in an effort to "legislate our religion", you are clueless. Once we allow government to define "untermensch" of any kind, we allow government unlimited power. That is a terrible thing. Abortion is simply the redefining of humanity to exclude those of us before we are born. It is an intolerable insult to every former fetus and a wholly dangerous approach to power.
822 posted on 04/21/2007 10:03:47 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Spyder

After reading this thread, all I see is a circular firing squad and Hillary as president.

Seems folks here want to make that tent smaller and smaller. They have no idea what they are doing.

Its healthy to have debate about candidates, it really is. But to mandate who is to be supported flies completely in the face of liberty.


830 posted on 04/21/2007 10:05:18 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: Spyder
I'm a conservative doesn't want to go after sinners with a fiery sword but would rather them learn to love the Lord in their hearts

Bravo! And we are commanded to do just that! The only thing that changes anyone is The Word! Where was the outcry these past 40 years from the Christians? They want government to cure the social ills that we allowed through silence. The only noise was grumbling instead of spreading The Word.
1,258 posted on 04/21/2007 11:51:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Spyder
There are lots of conservatives who don't believe in legislating our religion. We want everyone to be able to worship freely, not revert to the days of the Hugenots and others who were tortured and martyrs for their faith.

I'm a conservative...

I have yet to hear a good argument from the pro-life side as to why the Bible recommended lighter punishment for a man who caused another man's wife to miscarry than it did for a man who murdered the other man's wife.

You don't understand the legal differences between manslaughter or negligent homicide, and murder?

Who is attempting to "legislate your religion"? Who is attempting to revert to the days of the Hugenots and others who were tortured and martyred for their faith? (well... except liberals who will torture and murder children for not being born yet)

Using liberal slogans and catch phrases to attack phantom evils instead of real evil is a sign either of very poor thinking or no thinking at all, or is indicative of a pro-abort liberal making a very lame attempt to pose as conservative. I don't know if you are a pro abortion-killing liberal or not; it just appears that way to me.

Cordially,

4,777 posted on 04/23/2007 9:20:29 AM PDT by Diamond
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