Posted on 04/22/2007 8:12:58 AM PDT by george76
I wouldn’t take that to the bank.
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Every sect clamors for toleration when it is down. We have not the smallest doubt that, when Bonner was in the Marshalsea, he thought it a very hard thing that a man should be locked up in a gaol for not being able to understand the words, “This is my body,” in the same way with the lords of the council. It would not be very wise to conclude that a beggar is full of Christian charity, because he assures you that God will reward you if you give him a penny; or that a soldier is humane because he cries out lustily for quarter when a bayonet is at his throat. The doctrine which from the very first origin of religious dissensions, has been held by all bigots of all sects, when condensed into a few words, and stripped of rhetorical disguise, is simply this: I am in the right and you are in the wrong. When you are the stronger you ought to tolerate me; for it is your duty to tolerate truth. But when I am the stronger I shall persecute you; for it is my duty to persecute error.— Macaulay, Sir James Mackintosh, 1835.
You have a point about the names. But the land areas the muslims invaded are / were the same areas. This the source :
The four centuries of ceaseless warfare between the Byzantine (Eastern-Roman) Empire and the Sassanid Persian Empire in the 6th and 7th centuries had weakened both empires. It was at this unfortunate juncture that the Muslim Arabs pounced on both empires in fourth decade of the 7th century (641 C.E.). After their conquest of the Byzantine provinces of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine (today’s Israel), they invaded Egypt in December 641 C.E.
The persecuted Copts were the original inhabitants. Egypt, before the Islamic invasion was not an Arab country. Many of us are under a mistaken impression that Egyptians are Arabs. Mohammed Atta, the ringleader of the 9/11 attacks who led a group of Arabs was an Egyptian. So also was the Cairo born Yasser Arafat, who deceived the world by posing as a Palestinian. Both these scoundrels certainly considered themselves to be Arabs, as do the millions of Egyptians today. But little do they realize that apart from the few Arab invaders who traumatized Byzantine ruled Egypt in the 7th century, none of them are descendants of Bedouin Arabs. They descend from the Pharaohs (Firaun) who built the classic Egyptian civilization along the Nile valley in beautiful cities like Luxor, Memphis, Karnak and Thebes.
Egypt was one of the precious crown jewels of the Eastern-Roman Empire. Egypt was the breadbasket of Rome first and of then Constantinople. It was a fertile land that produced and exported wheat, corn, wine, oil, textiles, glass, cosmetics, and medicinal and chemical products of the time. The population of Egypt made up of Christian Copts was estimated to have been about 9 millions at the time the Arab aggression in 641.
Scholars have differed in views on how the ancient library of Alexandria was destroyed. However, recent research by Luciano Canfora concluded that the Arab general Amr at the orders of the Arab Caliph Umar did the heinous deed of destruction of the library.
The story of the Arabs destruction of the library indicates that it took them six months to burn the books in about one thousand public baths in Alexandria.
This was a shameful act on part of the unlettered Arabs, whose Islamic mentality told them that no other book need now exist, as the Quran contained all that they needed! This was the justification of the barefooted and lizard-eating Arab Muslims for burning down all libraries, not just in Egypt but also in Syria (Damascus), Persia (where they burned the royal Zoroastrian library at Ctesiphon), Spain, India (where they burned the Buddhist university of Nalanda). The burning of libraries was one of the most heinous of the many Muslim crimes against humanity.
http://www.islam-watch.org/HistoryOfJihad/Jihad-Egyptian%20Coptic-Christians.htm
You left out the best part.
The Romans intended the label as a put-down --- an insult, to the residents of the Levant, as it came to be known much later.
I'm here for the pictures of the blond long legged models.
Jens Orback, Minister for Democracy, Metropolitan Affairs, Integration and Gender Equality from the Social Democratic Party said during a debate in Swedish radio in 2004 that “We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.”
Amazing statement.
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this is actually american thinking.
Every time I see that picture I wonder if they - even for an instant - saw how absurd the situation was and how dehumanizing their submitting to wear those outfits is.
Liberal women in the west will also be wearing these outfits if we lose this global war.
What is the muslim population of Sweden in percent terms? Many europeans think they can always move elsewhere (mostly to the USA) if things get really bad at home. They should be prevented from doing so - so they can live with what they create and hopefully fight back.
Here is the sad future for Sweden:
Thanks to the immigration policies of their wacky liberals and the much higher birth rate of the immigrants, the unassimilable muslim population will continue to grow, and then there will come a time, probably when the percentage of 14-21 year old males in Sweden as a whole approaches 40% muslim (old people will be overwhelmingly ethnic Swede), that the type of society the muslims wish to have and the secular-liberal-socialist society the liberals have constructed will collide in a way that the liberals will have no more they can give away. The muslims will bully and intimidate the Swedes in their own land, many ethnic Swedes will convert to islam (sort of like the Stockholm Syndrome) and sharia law will rule in either de jure enclaves or de facto swaths over much of the country.
Then some Swedes will start to arm themselves and form themselves into nazi bands under a sort of racist “blood and soil” ideology, and start killing the most fundamentalist muslims, and other muslims who happen to be in their way. And the radical muslims will respond with suicide bombings and mass killings of their own of ethnic Swedes as well as of secular or moderate muslims.
And so Sweden will become a Bosnia of its own, and the country will be utterly ruined, thanks to the incredibly naive and suicidal policies of the secular liberals who dominated Sweden for so many decades.
Not exactly what I was looking for (Swedish Model).
Apparently there are swedish areas where the swedish police are afraid to go...
Swedish men have been beated up for wearing traditional swedish clothes in Sweden.
sharia law is taking over ...
We both like the traditional Swedish bikini team better.
In 135 AD the Romans renamed the province of Iudaea (Samaria, Judea, Idumea) as Syria Palaestina. Or in English, Palestine.
For an average citizen to say this is stupid and pathetic. For a government official, it's treason.
Perhaps he could step down from his government position and insist it be given to a Muslim.
Primarily Samaria—my point was not all of Israel was called Palestine until the British renamed it in 1917..Contrary to the borders as depicted in pre 1967 Bibles...However, modern day revisionists have attempted to create the country “Palestine” in order to legitimize the Palestinians ‘rights’, and de-legitimize the rights of Jews. IMO, the Palestinians do not own title rights to the land of Israel. That is the title question that has existed since 135. Just because the Romans appropriated the Land doesnt’ mean that it is legitimate.
You can find the 'seeds' of that now, HERE.....
Sounds like the Swedes have already surrendered ?
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