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To: Star Traveler

So no white lies under any circumstance? A child askes you if she is pretty and you say “sorry sweetie, your butt ugly”. And while I am not sure of the passage I do call that the bible does allow the “white lie”.

I’m afraid we’ll have to disagree on this. Your view and experience on this matter are far too narrow.


114 posted on 04/25/2007 4:37:24 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: PsyOp

You said — “So no white lies under any circumstance?”

There’s polite and courteous, and then there are lies. If I think someone is “but-ugly” and I see them walking along on the street, I don’t have to run up to them and say, “You know..., you’re just butt-ugly. I thought you should know that!”

You don’t have to say what you think. “Truthfulness” is not doing a “brain dump” on the other person. Some people mistake that for “truth”. That would simply be abusive.

However, if someone were to ask me, “Do you think I’m beautiful?” (and of course that usually only comes from someone you know closely :-) ... ), you can say easily, several things that are true to you, personally (and actually, that’s all you know...).

You can say, very easily, “Well, if you weren’t the most beautiful person to me, I wouldn’t be with you..” Or, you can say all sorts of other things, along that line. You don’t have to lie — but I’m presuming that this would be the person you would say it to. If not, then you might be in trouble! :-)

You can always say things that are correct and true, if you want to, like — “I was happy to get someone who was so much prettier than me.” You could go on and on, all day long like that — but whatever you say — make sure it’s *the truth*....


115 posted on 04/25/2007 4:46:34 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: PsyOp

A followup on another thing. You said the following —

And while I am not sure of the passage I do call that the bible does allow the “white lie”.

Well, a lie is a lie is a lie. With God, you’ll see this throughout the Bible — it’s *absolute perfection* or it’s sin. And, of course, we don’t meet up to absolute perfection, so that’s why we need a Savior, in Jesus Christ. There is “sin” in every person, which leads to all these problems that we have in the human race.

With God, there *are not shadings* at all. It’s perfection or it’s sin (and we’re talking about God’s character, in terms of how He’s related it to us). Mind you, I’m not saying we meet up with that — but short of being *perfect* — we’re all destined to hell — without the Savior, Jesus Christ.

In fact, to *emphasize* the point of the matter, Jesus *really* made that point, when he said it was not simply that someone committed adultery (as one particular example) — but — if someone *merely* gave it a thought or dwelled on that idea — that was the *same thing* as if you had actually done it. The *pefection* is not only in what you do — but it’s also in what you “merely” — think.

Absolutely none of it is allowed in God’s view. But, no one meets up to that standard, as we all well know. So, that’s why we will *never* merit being with God on our own. That’s why He provided a way through Jesus Christ, by accepting Him as Savior.

So, it’s *exacting* — very exacting...


117 posted on 04/25/2007 4:54:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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