Posted on 05/01/2007 3:28:31 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
The simple truth of the matter.
Peregrin and Mary? Weren’t they hobbits?
LOL...
>>>Powhatan could have wiped out the Jamestown colony at the outset but thought the English would be useful to him in his wars with other Indian tribes. Powhatan’s brother later did launch a massacre which tried to exterminate the English settlers.<<<
My 11th g-grandfather, Rev. Samuel Maycock, was killed in the 1622 massacre. Another 11th g-grandfather, Richard Pace, was credited with saving the colony of Jamestown from being totally wiped out by the Indians during the massacre. But the credit really goes to an Indian named Chanco who Richard had befriended. Chanco was supposed to kill Richard, but instead warned him of the impending massacre.
Fun history lesson, thanks! BTW, wikipedia is even more blunt:
>>>Hiatt tried to *kill* it, but it kept coming back<<<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_delicious
:-)
Pocahontas (Rebecca) married John Rolfe (the man who first introduced tobacco growing at Jamestown)...she had one child by him before she died in England on a visit there. She was very young when she knew John Smith and he went back to England pretty soon, so they didn’t have any children in common. It might be possible to be descended from both of them if you are descended from a descendant of John Smith by someone else who marrried a descendant of Pocahontas, but I don’t know if John Smith had any children.
Snort.
Well before she was kidnapped and eventually married Rolfe, when Smith was still in Jamestown, there were several years when she, though still a teenager, could have had children, and when she and Smith were in close proximity. Very close. Some would say that they cohabited, or that according to Indian custom, were married.
And, when you read the accounts of Pocahontas in England, just before her death, when she encountered Smith, whom she had thought dead, she sure looks and sounds like a jilted lover.
I’ve looked at the question carefully, and while I certainly can’t prove it, I’ve found nothing at all in the historical accounts to rule it out either.
Thanks. Keep me on your ping list. I enjoy history.
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As a lineal descendant of John Rolfe and Pocahontas myself (they were my 15th generation grandparents), I’ve done research regarding the relationship between her and John Smith. From what I’ve read, Pocahontas regarded John Smith in more of a fatherly manner than as a lover, given he was significantly older than she was. It wouldn’t be unusual to interpret her words as loving him, since she had such a high regard for him. I guess we’ll never know for sure, though.
That’s useful info. Thanks! I’m quite fascinated with the dynamics of the Jamestown settlement. I wish there was more documented history of what actually occurred there since there seems to be a plethora of speculation and a sometimes gross distortion of what actually went on there (e.g. Hollywood’s version of events).
I, too, have read that Pocahontas did, in fact, save Smith’s life, but I know there are conflicting accounts of that as well. What little is known about her seems to support that she was instrumental in helping the Jamestown settlement survive. Also, it is suggested that her marriage to John Rolfe (and their son, Thomas) helped maintain a certain level of peace between the Algonquins and the English settlers for a period of time.
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