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Another big blow on [Big] Dig price: Final cost may rise by $333M
bostonherald.com ^ | May 4, 2007 | Casey Ross

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:42:46 AM PDT by cloud8

Taxpayers who have already suffered through waste, fraud, delays and even a tragic accident from the budget-busting Big Dig are now getting a new kick in the pants: a bill as high as $333 million that has even Gov. Deval Patrick "fed up."

In financial documents to be released today, the Patrick administration will formally disclose that costs have ballooned to at least $14.798 billion and may increase by another $160 million, pending the outcome of negotiations with contractors, sources confirmed.

The cost correction comes as Patrick tries to exert more control over the project and the Turnpike Authority, whose shaky management has provoked federal probes into the project’s finances and construction quality.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bigdig; liberalprojects; taxachusetts; waste
Governor Plastic is "fed up to here, and I really mean it!" Speaking of which, federal funding for the Dig ran out years ago. How you going to pay for it, Deval?
1 posted on 05/04/2007 5:42:49 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: cloud8

Big Dig - Ted Kennedy Legacy.


2 posted on 05/04/2007 5:45:36 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: cloud8

A $2.5 Billion Project... looks like it’c coming in at $15 Billion. Talk about your effing boondoggle. Romney should be asked questions about this.


3 posted on 05/04/2007 5:47:06 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: marvlus
Big Dig - Ted Kennedy Legacy.

Like so much of Ted's legacy, someone else must pay the price.

4 posted on 05/04/2007 5:49:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: theDentist
The “Big Dig” is the “gift” that keeps on giving. One doesn’t know where to start when listing the corruption, fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement. It’s classic Government wastefulness in action. It's almost a living breathing thing.
5 posted on 05/04/2007 5:49:50 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: cloud8

So what’s the news? Government can’t do anything right. If you are over 12 years of age there is no excuse for believing otherwise.


6 posted on 05/04/2007 5:50:55 AM PDT by all the best
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To: cloud8

To put it into perspective- the Alaska Oil Pipleine was only $10billion.

But then again, that was originally projected to cost only $10Million. Only off by 9.99 Billion. (1000 times the original cost estimate...)


7 posted on 05/04/2007 5:53:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: cloud8
Governor Plastic is "fed up to here, and I really mean it!" Speaking of which, federal funding for the Dig ran out years ago.

That's why he's "fed up".

8 posted on 05/04/2007 5:59:13 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: marvlus
Someone really ought to erect a statue to Mary Jo on the Mall for keeping this reprobate out of the White House. She really DID give her life for her country.

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The joke around Boston – whose residents keep sending this moron back to Washington (probably to keep THEIR daughters safe) -- used to be that Teddy was down to his last brain cell. Looks like even THAT one finally gave up the ghost.

9 posted on 05/04/2007 6:12:07 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

“The joke around Boston – whose residents keep sending this moron back to Washington”

The joke is obviously on us. They got the money.


11 posted on 05/04/2007 6:18:01 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: corlorde

The most effective argument against ANY new government program is the past performance of the government. Wielded effectively it could shoot down ANY socialist pipe dream. The fact that no Republicans ever use it show me that they are on the other side.


12 posted on 05/04/2007 6:22:21 AM PDT by DManA
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To: cloud8

I hope you New Englanders love your goombah run govts.


13 posted on 05/04/2007 6:30:05 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: corlorde

It’s been good for Dunkin’ Donuts.

All those union guys sitting around drinking coffee for years has sure helped their bottom line.


14 posted on 05/04/2007 6:32:13 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: cloud8
Taxpayers who have already suffered through waste, fraud, delays and even a tragic accident from the budget-busting Big Dig are now getting a new kick in the pants: a bill as high as $333 million that has even Gov. Deval Patrick "fed up."

Yeah, Cadillac is fed up that he hasn't been in on any kickback action. He's going to fix that right now.

15 posted on 05/04/2007 6:37:34 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: cloud8

16 posted on 05/04/2007 6:56:45 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Mr. K

Thank the unions......


17 posted on 05/04/2007 7:00:49 AM PDT by captnorb
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To: Dick Bachert

Love the Teddy’s Tunes album...don’t forget Chappaquiddick Choo-choo :)


18 posted on 05/04/2007 7:28:54 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: cloud8

Everything Fat Ted touches, goes under.


19 posted on 05/04/2007 7:33:22 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Mr. K

“To put it into perspective- the Alaska Oil Pipleine was only $10billion.

But then again, that was originally projected to cost only $10Million. Only off by 9.99 Billion. (1000 times the original cost estimate...)”


I’ve got some problems with your figures.

Where did you find that original estimate of $10 million?

Just the preconstruction survey alone cost over $2 million.

And considering it was the largest privately-funded construction project at the time, do you think that nothing more expensive had ever been built?

For example, the Sears Tower built in Chicago in 1973 cost about $175 million.

And at $10 million for 800 miles, that would put construction costs at $12,500.00 per mile. You can’t even come close to building a highway in the states for that amount.

Plus everywhere I checked shows the construction costs were $8 billion, not $10 billion.

The Alaskan Pipeline was built in about 26 months and the first oil flowed thru a month later.

But, of course, this was private enterprise, not the government doing it with your tax money.


20 posted on 05/04/2007 7:40:02 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: captnorb

21 posted on 05/04/2007 7:40:30 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: cloud8

thought they were worried about the deficit?


22 posted on 05/04/2007 7:41:59 AM PDT by donnab
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To: Mr. K

Mr. K

Original projections are often wildly optimistic. However, wild optimism results in an error that is typically much less than 1000x at least in construction projects.

You wrote (with respect to the Alaska pipeline):

{
But then again, that was originally projected to cost only 10Million. Only off by 9.99 Billion. (1000 times the original cost estimate...)
}

A quick web search found

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF13/1334.html

{
Originally budgeted at $900 million, the pipeline cost more than $8 billion to build
}

http://menlocampus.wr.usgs.gov/50years/accomplishments/pipeline.html

{
Some statistics of interest. The initial estimated cost of installing 800 miles of buried pipeline was $900 million, and the actual cost was more than $8 billion.
}

If these sites are correct, the $10Million original projection you quote is 90-fold too low. If these sites are incorrect and your number is correct, they are 90x too high.

Your source and the ones I google’d both agree on the final cost (ca 10 billion). I’m going to go with the ca 1 billion dollar projected cost estimate.

And I would guess that future pipeline construction estimates would be substantially closer than 10x to the final costs.


23 posted on 05/04/2007 7:48:27 AM PDT by vk45
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To: cloud8

Damn, wish I’d thought of that one. Nice!!

May steal it. Gotta check with Joe Biden first!


24 posted on 05/04/2007 7:48:42 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Seruzawa
I hope you New Englanders love your goombah run govts.

Not all of us are.Massachusetts is one of only three states in the country that's actually *losing* population.The other two,IIRC,are Rhode Island and New York.

25 posted on 05/04/2007 7:53:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Between the Mob and the Democrats I’d say that those living in Massachoosits are screwed.


26 posted on 05/04/2007 8:57:41 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: Seruzawa
Between the Mob and the Democrats I’d say that those living in Massachoosits are screwed.

Yah,you're pretty much right.I've been planning my escape for a while but now that we have a genuine Clintonista affirmative action Governor I know that before too long property values in the state will be in free fall so...North Carolina,here I come!!!

27 posted on 05/04/2007 9:02:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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