Posted on 05/04/2007 8:48:31 PM PDT by Valin
"What's He Doing Here?: Jesus in Jewish Culture." An unusual conference title, to be sure, for what proved to be an unusual event on a beautiful spring Sunday in New York. Writers, critics, filmmakers and scholars gathered at the Center for Jewish History to discuss the man whom Leon Wieseltier termed "the world's most famous ex-Jew." The gathering was an intellectually illustrious one. Harvard professor Stephen Greenblatt and poet Robert Pinsky were speakers on a panel coyly titled "Why I Think About Jesus."
And why not think about Jesus? It is rather hard to avoid contemplating Jesus, it was pointed out, since the rest of the Western world does so often--and often beautifully--in its literature, art and music. But for Jews, Mr. Greenblatt stated, it can be liberating to view certain religiously inspired works from the vantage point of the outsider. He emphasized the intense intellectual pleasure to be drawn from the dichotomy between the Jewish critic and the Christian-inflected text--the inherent appeal of knowing how to interpret the symbology and yet remaining apart, invulnerable to its pull.
The very existence of the conference, with its contemplating-Jesus theme, implied such invulnerability. Clearly American Jews feel secure in their own beliefs--and at home in a culture with such strong Christian origins--if they can ask, only slightly tongue in cheek (and on a Sunday, no less!), "What's he doing here?" The comfortable atmosphere at the Center for Jewish History was a far cry from, say, the climate surrounding the 1263 Disputation of Barcelona, in which a Dominican friar debated Rabbi Nachmanides over whether Judaism or Christianity was the "true" faith.
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It’s been my experience that the Jews I’ve been in contact with have no wish to acknowledge Jesus and do everything they can to villify Him and Christians in general.
What an awful day to be out of popcorn.
"For he was pierced for our transgressions, and by his wounds we are healed."
What do you suppose that might mean?
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Prayer works.
Liberal "intellectuals" with no sense of their own history or culture outside of a sense of entitlement and persecution.
For these people, eating at a non-Kosher kitschy "delicatessen" and reading the Forward is Jewish, but practicing non-Eastern European Jews are not.
These are just a bunch of mutli-culturalists, who should have been sent to Birobaijan.
It doesnt say that in the Hebrew...
Jesus was never an "ex" Jew.
Whenever I found myself in the past talking to friends or acquaintances that were Jewish and "Jesus" comes up, some say that he may have been a "decent man" or "good philosopher" or "good teacher" but only one I've met thought of him as the "son of God".
Met him at a "Promise Keepers" meeting up in Tampa....
I'm always left with the quote from C.S. Lewis,
" I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: 'I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God.'
That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher.
He would either be a lunatic -- on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg -- or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse.
You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher.
He has not left that open to us.
He did not intend to. Mere Christianity,
Wow.... that is a broad brush.
You actually answered it correctly at the beginning. The god-man hybrid is totally not a Jewish concept, it is a greek-roman one.
Alright then, how would you translate it?
ATB>"For he was pierced for our transgressions, and by his wounds we are healed."
It doesnt say that in the Hebrew...
9 posted on 05/04/2007 10:25:24 PM MDT by blasater1960
Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded because of our transgressions,
he was crushed because of our iniquities:
the chastisement of our welfare was upon him,
and with his stripes we were healed.
A Hebrew - English Bible According to the Masoretic Text and the JPS 1917 Edition b'shem Yah'shua
It's a broad road: "For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it." Matthew 7:12-14
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Do you think this is a fair translation blasater?
You can’t go wrong quoting C S Lewis.
I only trust Jews who are in Israel because the ones we have in the US are for the Palestinians. Hell, look at Babs they are some of the most leftist individuals.
True, but out of context. Start with Isaiah 52. He is talking about Zion or Israel.
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