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GIULIANI URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY (1999, Jonathan Pollard)
Times Union | Sep 29, 1999 | Stewart M. Powell

Posted on 05/06/2007 11:57:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl

WASHINGTON -- New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani urged President Clinton Tuesday to free convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, a move that could boost Jewish support for the Republican's prospective Senate campaign -- and complicate a possible run in 2000 by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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Regarding Pollard, Giuliani said the Israeli deserves presidential clemency because the life sentence for espionage given him in 1987 goes "way beyond" sentences given in the past to American citizens convicted of spying for a U.S. ally.

Pollard, a former civilian U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, has already served a longer prison term than enemy spies who are routinely traded by their governments, according to Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor and associate attorney general in the Justice Department.

"It seems to me that there was an appropriate basis on which the President could exercise his discretion and cut that particular sentence," Giuliani said, adding that Pollard has "served much more than anyone else convicted of the same thing."

Giuliani stressed that he was restating a position that he had taken on the Pollard case "a couple of years ago" rather than announcing a new position.

The Clinton administration continues to review clemency for Pollard following repeated requests by the Israeli government. ...

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Giuliani deflected questions about whether he would endorse Texas Gov. George W. Bush as the Republican presidential nominee. The Associated Press quoted a top New York GOP official as saying the mayor could make such an announcement on Thursday.


TOPICS: Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: drek; espionage; fugazy; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; milken; nationalsecurity; pollard; spy
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To: Liz
EXCERPT April 21, 2007 -- A group of Israelis has launched a grass-roots effort to get people living in the Jewish state who are eligible to vote in the United States to line up behind Rudy Giuliani, it was reported yesterday. The group, Giuliani Supporters in Israel, was launched by Mordechai Twersky, a onetime candidate for state Assembly in The Bronx ...... "I did this as a private personal initiative, as a proud American and Israeli citizen..." Twersky told the NY Post. He said the Giuliani campaign hadn't set up his group, but that he's been in contact with Team Giuliani......Giuliani has historically been popular with Jewish voters, and took a hard pro-Israel line when he was in office........ In some past elections, planeloads of Israelis with American citizenship have flown to the United States to vote.

Rudy is very popular with Jews. So????????

I hope all the GOP candidates are. Jews are activists, and they have money to contribute. The GOP would love to get the Jewish vote.

121 posted on 05/07/2007 7:51:11 PM PDT by veronica
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To: bvw
Ted Olson & Pollard

"Olson had also gained notability by acting as attorney for convicted spy Jonathan Pollard while he was in private practice. Olson had appealed to United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit claiming that during Pollard's trial, the life sentence he received was in violation of the plea bargain agreement, which had specifically taken life off the table. Olson also argued that in violation of said plea bargain, that was grounds for a mistrial. The Court of Appeals, in a panel of three judges, voted 2-1 that no grounds existed for a mistrial. Future Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg cast the deciding vote against Pollard's motion."

122 posted on 05/07/2007 7:59:24 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

There is no punishment too large for those that sell out their country.


123 posted on 05/07/2007 8:02:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: veronica; Condor51
Yes. I have a problem with it. I will quote Condor51 from the linked thread:
I don't care if they are Israelis, Mexicans or Martians, but this dual nationality crap is UN AMERICAN.

You cannot serve two masters. You are either an American Citizen loyal ONLY to the USA or you AIN'T - period, end, stop.


124 posted on 05/07/2007 8:03:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
There is a reason our system of justice takes into account both aggravating and mitigating circumstances.

BTW - do you have a problem with Israelis supporting Rudy, or any other American pol? Many supported GWB too.

125 posted on 05/07/2007 8:06:55 PM PDT by veronica
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To: calcowgirl

I just went back and read some of your posts. Great job defending your position. I think some people also use the term ally when isn’t quite relevant. Technically, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, and a long list of others are our allies. That term can real grey real quick.


126 posted on 05/07/2007 8:08:20 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl

Bill Clinton should be in jail too, but aw, what the heck : )


127 posted on 05/07/2007 8:09:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: calcowgirl

Daniel Pearl, by virtue of his parents being dual citizens, had dual citizenship as well. Would you accuse him of disloyalty?


128 posted on 05/07/2007 8:10:14 PM PDT by veronica
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To: jedward

Are you implying Israel is not an ally? Or that Egypt is as much of an ally as Israel?


129 posted on 05/07/2007 8:11:23 PM PDT by veronica
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To: stephenjohnbanker

A dose of humor :) Hey SJB


130 posted on 05/07/2007 8:12:12 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

HI there! It looked like a bit of humor was called for.


131 posted on 05/07/2007 8:13:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: veronica

I have a problem with ALL foreigners meddling in U.S. elections.


132 posted on 05/07/2007 8:13:46 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Americans living in Israel are not foreigners.

And I assure you no GOP candidate will turn down contributions or support from law-abiding citizens of any country.

Supporting a candidate is called free speech.

133 posted on 05/07/2007 8:16:05 PM PDT by veronica
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To: jedward

Thanks. There are indeed different levels of allies, but that isn’t my point, really. Whether ally or not, our secrets are our secrets. If the U.S. chooses to share those secrets, that is one thing. Those who choose to help themselves serve heavy consequences—and rightfully so.

Pollard’s actions were traitorous. To call him “chump change” should be an insult to all of those wanting to maintain National Security and sovereignty.

(question: is it j edward or jed ward? I was going to type JE but I remember someone posting to you as JW. I’m so confused!!!! LOL)


134 posted on 05/07/2007 8:20:10 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: veronica

“Are you implying Israel is not an ally?”

Nope, I was implying and will say outright that if anyone chooses to use the “it was an ally” as a position of defense, they are opening themselves up to the argument of whether that should be a factor or not.

“Or that Egypt is as much of an ally as Israel?”

If someone wants to use the ally position, then they have to defend that very scenario. What does the Department of State declare?


135 posted on 05/07/2007 8:21:19 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: tsowellfan

How did you do that deceptive thing with the url you posted? And why?


136 posted on 05/07/2007 8:21:56 PM PDT by BykrBayb (May the way of the hero lead to the triforce! Þ)
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To: veronica

I don’t know who he was loyal to.


137 posted on 05/07/2007 8:22:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

jedward’s fine if it’s not too long to type :) or j


138 posted on 05/07/2007 8:25:21 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl

I don’t know who are loyal to.


139 posted on 05/07/2007 8:27:08 PM PDT by veronica
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Humor is good :) Mine of more of a sinical type (lol)


140 posted on 05/07/2007 8:28:43 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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