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Are you actually thinking only Rudy can win, or are you actually thinking that we can't compare candidates (in a primary process, hint, hint!) without irreparably damaging the party?

Do yourself a favor and COUNT the venomous anti-Giuliani threads. I'm not favoring Giuliani -- I agree that he's not ideal.

But what's happening here isn't merely "comparing candidates." There's a very sour tone to the debate and I, for one, think that we're dead in the water in 2008 unless something changes.

But what's happening here isn't merely "comparing candidates." There's a very sour tone to the debate and I, for one, think that we're dead in the water in 2008 unless something changes.

There's a very sour tone because a pro-abortion extremist is being considered for the GOP nomination for the first time. It will pass.

Do yourself a favor and COUNT the venomous anti-Giuliani threads. I'm not favoring Giuliani -- I agree that he's not ideal. But what's happening here isn't merely "comparing candidates." There's a very sour tone to the debate and I, for one, think that we're dead in the water in 2008 unless something changes.

The reason there are 'venomous anti-Giuliani threads' is because Rudy is a liberal RINO that is seeking to portray himself as a latter day Ronald Reagan which is about as funny as Louis Farrakhan offering to host a bar mitzvah for his Jewish friends (hint: he hasn't got any).

As for the 'very sour tone to the debate'? That is exactly what happens when liberals try to foist a fake conservative on REAL conservatives with REAL principles and REAL values. Giuliani doesn't have anything of the kind.

Hey, we support conservatism and conservative candidates here. If you wish to support a NARAL loving abortionist, thought crimes pushing gun grabber, take it to some liberal/socialist site. You sure as hell will not receive any sympathy here, RINO lover.

Do yourself a favor and COUNT the venomous anti-Giuliani threads. I'm not favoring Giuliani -- I agree that he's not ideal. But what's happening here isn't merely "comparing candidates." There's a very sour tone to the debate and I, for one, think that we're dead in the water in 2008 unless something changes.

I have debated a few of these repugnant creatures here at FR who tout the entire Sanger line on eugenics. They speak of how if we don't allow and promote abortion, the minorities and undesirables and those of low intelligence will breed like flies, bankrupting the welfare state and enslaving us all by voting for increased socialism. They speak of thinning and culling that herd that would otherwise destroy us with breeding their undesirable and unproductive offspring.

Now, most of the Juliebots don't understand this, taken in by the rhetoric and the fiction of only-Rudi-can-beat-Hitlery but some of their ringleaders do take this exact position. Make no mistake, this is exactly what is meant when a NARAL Champion Of Choice like Guiliani gives speeches that praise Margaret Sanger. The praise of Sanger is the praise and advocacy of exactly these policies. That is what it means when NARAL gives Giuliani four times as much money as they gave Hitlery. Planned Barrenhood and their political arm, NARAL, still pursue these same Sangeresque goals.

There is not room on one forum for pro-lifers and those who take the position of racial eugenicists and spout the Sanger talking points and who support candidates who praise Sanger.

JimRob was very wise to rid our forum of this repugnant and racist element. This is not the first time that such persons and their dupes had to be ejected from the forum.

This is a pro-life forum. It always has been. And I believe JimRob when he says that it always will be.

Agreed. I’ve unavoidably been away for a while and am apalled at the tone of some of these threads. The libs aren’t going to have to rip us apart. We’re doing it to ourselves.

I am supporting Fred, but these horrible anti-Rudy threads turn my stomach. The man is deserving of respect if not our votes.

In the end, I will wholly support whoever wins the brass ring in the primaries (even if, horrors of horrors, it is McCain and I say that with much pain). I’d prefer there not be a trail of swill to be followed here. Also, I fear the vitriolic attacks against each other’s candidates will leave many Freepers so disenchanted and disgusted with the chosen candidate that they will not go to the polls in November 2008.

Can’t we have discourse and debate without dissolving into juvenile and nasty attacks?