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Commander to troops: Fight by the rules (high moral values "distinguishes us from our enemy")
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/10/07 | Robert H. Reid - ap

Posted on 05/10/2007 2:05:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

Just what the Brits in N. America said in the mid-1770’s......


21 posted on 05/10/2007 2:44:06 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: ohioman

FIGHT TO WIN is what Patton would do. Hey General, go be an enlisted man and find out what’s real and what’s fantasy.


22 posted on 05/10/2007 2:46:22 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: NormsRevenge

You win wars by making the other guy die for HIS country....Patton.


23 posted on 05/10/2007 4:00:15 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: NormsRevenge
geez,

when is the MSM gonna start cornering muslims and asking them why they don't condemn beheading, why they don't condemn the killing of innocent women and children, why they will not allow us to "search" a mosque but knowingly with a wink/wink hide weapons in schools, hospitals and mosques,

He should have said the "We fight by rules of international convention against states in war, but the forces of the islamo-facist insist on indiscriminate murder, theft, lies, cowardice and betrayal. Instead of the best efforts by our men to protect civilians that are compared to the cowards that hide behind women and children."

Instead he came out with another propaganda point for the opposition, cause our troops have to me reminded to not violate international law but the jihadist are just innocent honorable combatants......

Well F#*k You! .....sir!....

24 posted on 05/10/2007 4:10:09 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: John Leland 1789
Lee got his troops together and said words to the affect, “We shall be Christians in the land of the enemy, just as we are Christians at home.

And how did the Confederates actually DO in that war?

25 posted on 05/10/2007 4:36:59 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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The outcome of the war is not the issue, and you know it. You do not like the fact that Lee was a fine Christian man.

You know, how did Mr. Lincoln actually DO at Ford’s Theater? That kind of thing. As if the outcome has something to DO with Lincoln’s faith or character.


26 posted on 05/10/2007 5:48:56 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: NormsRevenge

God help those soldiers and Marines, because it sounds like the in-the-rear-with-the-gear scumbag commanders don’t give a rat’s behind. Simply disgraceful.


27 posted on 05/10/2007 5:52:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge
Folks, I’m of mixed opinion on this one,, taking the moral high ground has a tendency of making one an easy target in the long run.

Norm, my feelings are not mixed at all. Dead is dead, and dead Marines don't say to themselves, "Well the other guy cheated when he killed me but at least I have the moral high ground because I played by the rules." This crap makes me throw up in my mouth a little. It's time to unload this idiot Petraeus and get somebody decent in there. Cripes, we'll never win this thing.

28 posted on 05/10/2007 5:58:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover; RaceBannon; freema

Scumbag commanders and their “rules of engagement” PING.
This idiot Petraeus has to go.


29 posted on 05/10/2007 6:00:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
William Tecumseh Sherman thoroughly understood the necessity for total warfare, as ugly and brutal as it was. We've learned very little from history.
30 posted on 05/10/2007 6:08:23 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: NormsRevenge; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; ...

1. The timing on this sucks.
2. WHY is he addressing the ANNUAL MEETING OF THE AP?!
3. when at the last of the article they turn right around and call Haditha the killing of 24 CIVILIANS!


31 posted on 05/11/2007 2:17:34 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: NormsRevenge
Did we fight by the rules during our revolution? I thought the Brits did not like it because we hid behind trees instead of standing in a line.

The idea of 'war' is to WIN! With the jihadis, we need to beat them before they beat us. They are the ones hidding behind and among civilians.

Is it possible to win 'nicely'? I don't want indiscriminate slaughter of innocents, but I want to win!

32 posted on 05/11/2007 2:25:38 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: ohioman
“What would Patton do?”

Patton would have told US leaders that terrorists have no honor, and they have no God. He would have told them that terrorists who hide behind women and children while shooting at US forces are cowards and reprobates who know no morality...that they are the bile of Satan.

Patton would have read the damned Geneva Convention and reminded the sissies in power that Al Qaeda terrorists are not protected by the Convention’s articles as written. He would have told them that torturing a member of Al Qaeda in order to extract information to protect innocent civilians or US solders “IS,” in fact, the moral “high ground.”

Patton would have said that protecting the innocent from harm at the hands of evil forces is the essence of morality.

33 posted on 05/11/2007 2:38:10 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: NormsRevenge
The military senior leadership has learned nothing from Vietnam. There we tried to "win the hearts and minds" of the Vietnamese with the lives of our brave troops.

That is a strategy for losers.

Chuck Colson said it best: "If you grab them by the b*lls their hearts and minds will follow."

Germany and Japan were converted from brutal dictatorships to democratic republics by force of arms--not by worrying about civilian casualties.

Either victory is goal number one or it is not. If it is not then get the troops home now--that is the lesson of Vietnam.
34 posted on 05/11/2007 2:58:50 AM PDT by cgbg (Help! I am a prisoner in LKOT (Leftist Kook Occupied Territory.))
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To: John Leland 1789
The outcome of the war is not the issue, and you know it.

Oh, really? So then you don't care if we win or lose this war so long as we observe Emily Post rules of etiquitte regarding a vicious and brutal enemy?

Your comparison is apples and oranges. Lincoln was not in Ford's theater trying to win a war. It was not a battlefield.

35 posted on 05/11/2007 4:55:12 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: RavenATB

Excellent response.


36 posted on 05/11/2007 5:31:13 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman
Patton would not have a clue how to conduct counter-insurgency operations.
37 posted on 05/11/2007 5:35:17 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: freema

Our military has fallen once again into the political trap. So many here have voiced this concern for some three years or more regarding this unfortunate situation. The winners of course are all the radical criminal muslims.


38 posted on 05/11/2007 8:06:12 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Lancey Howard
It's time to unload this idiot Petraeus and get somebody decent in there. Cripes, we'll never win this thing.

You should check the status of current events. Not the MSM's version, but reports from people on the ground. We are winning. Petraeus is doing better than any US Commander to date. Let the man do his job.

Concentrate on the Democrat surrender monkeys here at home. They are the real danger.

39 posted on 05/11/2007 8:22:30 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Lancey Howard

Better that the dead Marine wakes up to find himself in heaven rather than kickin’ it with old Satan.


40 posted on 05/11/2007 8:57:17 AM PDT by rednesss
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