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To: Sleeping Beauty

Let me respond this way:

Was the Muslim push into Iberia and then France (stopped by Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours in 732) caused in any way by US activities?

Was the Muslim push into Europe (stopped only at the Battle of Vienna in 1683) caused in any way by US activities?

Did US tributes to Barbary Pirates (which, in the end, did not keep them from taking US ships and sailors hostage) in 1784, 1789, and 1801 having anything to do with the current situation?

How far back do you have to go to find justification? Heck, while the French Crusaders were ineffectively trying to retake the Holy Land, MY Anglo-Saxon ancestors were busy raping and pillaging the Celts. Don’t hear the Celts whining about it 800 years later...


82 posted on 05/16/2007 2:02:12 PM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: Philistone

Just a look at the history of islam going back before there even was a USA tells us all we need to know. Islam has always been bent on expansion and domination and we can’t bury our heads in the sand deep enough to make them go away.


95 posted on 05/16/2007 2:15:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Philistone
Are you sure you meant to post a response to me?

I am not participating in this discussion.

(But, in case you are, I am a war strategist. I don’t look back in a chess game — if I want to prevail, I look forward. The correct question is — what direct repercussions could the American people suffer as a result of our invasion of Iraq, and at what intensity, and where? I must look at this fearlessly if I am to protect them. We live in a universe governed by the effects of action-counter-reaction.)

98 posted on 05/16/2007 2:20:43 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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