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1 posted on 05/18/2007 5:07:38 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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I have been saying this for years: NO MORE BLOOD FOR OIL!!! (I'm a retired automotive engineer) CAFE (Corporate Automotive Fuel Economy) standards KILL more American citizens every year than have died in the entire Iraq war. Further increases in CAFE will kill even more. Federally mandated fuel economy standards are a foolish way to conserve oil.
2 posted on 05/18/2007 5:20:18 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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“W” couldn’t reduce 20/40 to its lowest dominator. He is out of touch, out of control and out of his ever loving mind. Please Mr. President, show real concern for our nation and resign.
Whoever becomes the new V.P. will be eternally grateful. It would change the picture for 08.


3 posted on 05/18/2007 5:21:23 AM PDT by em2vn
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I think I’ve bought my last vehicles. I’m going to keep my F-150 and my old Lincoln Towncar on the road forever. They’re going to end up looking like something out of “Road Warrior.”


6 posted on 05/18/2007 5:30:06 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (The 21st century is a real booger.)
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Liberals would rather have people die in unsafe cars than drill for oil. It shows they don't place as high as a concern for the welfare of the human family as they do for the environment.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 05/18/2007 5:32:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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But look at the positive side to this! With more drivers dying, once the wreckage is cleared away, there will be less congestion on the roads, fewer traffic jams wasting gas, and most importantly, fewer drivers using gasoline.

It looks like a “win-win” situation to me!

Mark


14 posted on 05/18/2007 5:42:05 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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FOX News propounding Big Oil’s propaganda? Who woulda thunk it?


21 posted on 05/18/2007 5:50:17 AM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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These statistics are junk science.


25 posted on 05/18/2007 5:56:24 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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My most liberal friend, actually an admitted socialist, blathers on about gas consumption. Went postal on me when I pointed out hybrids are BS.

Both of his kids got new Ford Explorers at 16. He said they weren’t driving small cars, too dangerous.

He also never offered to explain why they each had to get a car at age 16.

Sacrifice=other people’s responsibility


28 posted on 05/18/2007 5:59:05 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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lighter cars are deadlier cars

Oh, the hugh manatee! We're doomed!

I like small cars. I also like motorcycles. Not only because they use less fuel and take up less space in my garage but, even more, I like the way they handle. That can be helpful in an emergency, too. If "safe" is the measure, I'll take a car that's nimble enough over one that's "big enough" every time.

I can't imagine ever buying something big in the name of "safety" and paying for it every day while sacrificing both the economy and the fun of driving a smaller, nimbler car.

33 posted on 05/18/2007 6:02:39 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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So, if you don’t want smaller and lighter cars, keep the behemoth you have now for the next 20 years.

It worked for the Yellow Cab company.


34 posted on 05/18/2007 6:04:00 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (And the residents of Cuba!!!)
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Part of it too is the speed of cars and the amount of power ti took. Ten years ago a family car might go 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds. Now many are in the low 6’s. I do think that at some point we do have to reduce gas usage for the purposes of foreign policy. I don’t like relying on the Middle East and Hugo for a lot of our oil and i’ve never read anything to indicate that our own resources (which we should exploit more) could support us in the longterm at our present usage.


36 posted on 05/18/2007 6:09:41 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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The unfortunate reality, however, is that the only practical way automakers can meet higher CAFE standards at present is by the rather low-tech method of reducing the weight of automobiles

This is junk reporting about junk science. There are many ways to boost mpg, using available 'High and Low Tech,' and achieve higher CAFE ratings. Weight reduction is just one of them.

For example, six-speed automatics, with much 'lower' final drive ratios. Streamlined belly pans, computer improvements,(auto shut down at stop lights) etc. etc. Re-educating consumers about "performance."

I had an '88 legend coupe, with a 2.7 liter V6. It was luvurious and very fast and certainly capable of maintaining a cruising speed on the freeways that was faster than a Piper Cub. (I'll say no more.) It also delivered 30 MPG+ highway.

Subsequent models went to a 3 liter, than a 3.2 because owners were complaining about "poor acceleration." Highway mileaage fell 5mpg or more. Surprise, surprise. Jackrabbiting away from stoplights is still a big deal! It really shouldn't be.

37 posted on 05/18/2007 6:09:46 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Crazies to my left. Wimps to my right. BTW, Muslims ain't "Immigrants." They's Colonists.)
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The OTHER reason to ditch CAFE has to do with the propensity of more fuel efficient vehicles to ENABLE urban sprawl, and CAUSE people to drive more for every reason imaginable. We drive 35% more today than we did in 1975.

People commute today from previously UNHEARD OF distances. Businesses utilize the company car to keep from having satellite offices. So, most of the improvement in fuel efficiency gets gobbled up by increased usage.

In which alternate universe can the CONSERVATION of a commodity be increased by making it cheaper to use?

55 posted on 05/18/2007 6:57:29 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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