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We Shouldn't Rush: Let's Do Immigration Reform Right
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 21, 2007 | U.S. SENS. KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON and JOHN CORNYN

Posted on 05/22/2007 3:09:46 PM PDT by anymouse

As your U.S. senators, we have been heavily involved in the congressional debate on immigration reform for several years. We have taken a leadership role on this issue because we represent a state that uniquely benefits from the contributions of legal immigrants, but is also uniquely vulnerable to the dangers of illegal immigration. Throughout this process, our principles have been clear and consistent: We must secure our borders, and we cannot encourage illegal behavior through amnesty.

Last week, the Bush administration, along with a small group of senators, announced a compromise immigration bill that would take a necessary first step in improving border security. We did not join in the announcement. While our efforts had a positive influence, we were not convinced the announced proposal guarantees repair of our current broken system. We are particularly concerned that we may be repeating the mistakes of the failed 1986 national amnesty.

As of late Friday, the actual text of the "grand compromise" had not yet been published. Major questions remain about details of the plan, and how it would work. We believe the bill, which was negotiated privately, deserves a full public airing before it's considered.

The bill promises some long-term positive changes, including significant border security measures, an end to chain migration and a switch to green card distribution based on merit.

But many problems have not been satisfactorily addressed. For example, we must make certain that convicted criminals are not eligible for any legalization, and if these individuals attempt to stay here, that they are arrested and promptly deported.

We must ensure that only those who have played by the rules and not those engaged in identity theft receive Social Security benefits. This proposal would enable illegal immigrants to collect Social Security benefits for the time they were unlawfully in our country. At a time when we are already facing major shortfalls in our ability to pay benefits for future retirees, this represents an unfair burden on the American taxpayer. We must end the rampant document fraud that plagues our workplaces today, and do it in a way that is legally enforceable.

Some of our colleagues, sensing the fragile nature of the proposed compromise, want to rush it through the Congress immediately. This would be a major mistake. It is too important and too complicated to rush. The legislation requires extended Senate debate, with full opportunity for public input and criticism, and an open process for amendments to strengthen its provisions.

In 1986, the Congress approved a similar compromise plan that, in return for amnesty for most immigrants here illegally, promised an end to porous borders and disregard for our laws. Those promises were not honored. The amnesty legislation instead actually encouraged further disrespect for our laws, and led directly to the situation we face today.

As the bill reaches the Senate floor this week, our goal will be restoring the integrity of our borders, providing guest workers with opportunity, not amnesty, and preserving our Social Security for all who legally qualify. Our contributions to the debate will continue to be positive and constructive.

Our country needs immigration reform. We must ensure that it's done, and done correctly.

Hutchison and Cornyn are both Republicans and represent Texas in the U.S. Senate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; baileyhutchison; cornyn; immigrantlist; immigration; senate
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To: anymouse

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hbtftjfXv1o
This is how I feel about this immigration stuff
I wrote this little song parody called “no no no”


21 posted on 05/22/2007 3:38:11 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Wasted away again down in Freeperville, lookin' for that new troll I can ZOT!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I agree. Border Patrol is ran by career government employees who are democrats. They like seeing them come over cuz they know they are more votes for big government.

John


22 posted on 05/22/2007 3:58:48 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: BuffaloJack

I would too. I would pay $2500 a head to local police departments.

The plus to that would be they would abandon their speed traps cuz they could make more money chasing down illegals.

John


23 posted on 05/22/2007 4:00:29 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Paleo Conservative
"For example, we must make certain that convicted criminals are not eligible for any legalization, and if these individuals attempt to stay here, that they are arrested and promptly deported".

Wow! And the reason this is not done NOW is?

24 posted on 05/22/2007 4:20:16 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

>>In the mean time, why not enforce the laws that are already on the books?<<

I have tried to find something good in this bill, and have concluded that almost all of it is flawed. For those of you (including Goober Graham) who say, “If you don’t like this bill, what is your proposal”:

Strip out all the amnesty (Z Visa) and guest worker provisions and vote on those issues as a separate bill.

Leave in the bill: More border agents, border monitoring equipment. Leave the harsher penalties for employers and continued work on encrypted tamper-resistant (”tamper-proof” sounds a little optimistic) documents and employment verification systems, to be deployed when and if they make sense.

I’ll bet the amnesty portion would be easily defeated (or at least the public would be overwhelmingly opposed), and the bill with the enforcement would have a good chance of passing, although Bush might veto it because it didn’t include amnesty.

If Bush signed the new enforcement bill and there was no doubt that employer penalties worked exceptionally well, after a few years, introduce the amnesty again. But we might find that the illegals were going home.

If Bush vetoed the new enforcement bill and congress could not override, see if the public was sufficiently infuriated to elect a sane president and congress.


25 posted on 05/22/2007 5:27:33 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: anymouse
I don't want to get immigration reform right. I don't want the senate to back down and kill this bill. I want heads on the ends of stakes.
26 posted on 05/22/2007 6:52:36 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: cripplecreek

I am still interested in knowing how we are going to find, catch and deport over 10,000,000 people.

The police cannot issue a summons without being brought up on racism charges by the ACLU.


27 posted on 05/22/2007 7:01:40 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Amazing isn't it?)
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To: JasonC

Simple solution.

Cut welfare, hospital treatment and school admission to illegals.

They will go home on their own.


28 posted on 05/22/2007 7:05:44 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Amazing isn't it?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

One place to start is with the criminals who hire illegals. I don’t mean fines they pay out of petty cash, I mean prison terms. The illegals themselves can be deported as they’re found.


29 posted on 05/22/2007 7:08:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: anymouse
The bill promises some long-term positive changes, including significant border security measures

I'll bet my definition of border security is magnitudes different than how most Senators define it.

Until the dimwit Republicans take control of the debate by SEPARATING immigration reform from the invasion of illegals, they have no hope of changing anything. These are two different issues and must be dealt with separately. Illegals first.

Why, for God's sake, do Republicans refuse to learn that they must shape the terms of a debate or lose? They could do it, but they are naive and weak. And sorta just plain dumb.

30 posted on 05/22/2007 7:22:54 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s
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To: cripplecreek
"It’s real simple. We don’t need reform. We need enforcement."

Amen!

31 posted on 05/22/2007 7:39:37 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: anymouse

Patriots....Pray tell.....how could anyone support chicken ranchers, motel owners, turkey pluckers, under the table contractors and attorney slime who want American tax payers to pay for illegal alien health care, college educations, their legal bills etc.

Put them out of business...Hunt them down with impunity. Turn them into the IRS, State Labor Law Agencies.... make every Patriot a whistle blower....

Remember it is us against them. They are out to ruin our culture and make us pay for it before we are put into poverty too. They are slave masters making slaves out of immigrants and we get to pay the welfare bill...

How could anyone in power sell us down the river like this...disgusting.


32 posted on 05/22/2007 7:48:47 PM PDT by Sovernity (What are You doing other than talking and listening???)
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To: anymouse
Yeah, let’s never have amnesty. Let’s let people know that you will be hunted down and expelled along with your family even if you’ve been here 30 years and are a millionaire. Of course, that’s not what is meant by reform.
33 posted on 05/22/2007 7:53:11 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: WWTD

Kay is already a lost cause...She’s for reform...Amnesty...

John Cornyn was at the time on this “deal” in the senate about a 50/50 bar on the issue...

I believe the pressure will build upon Cornyn, Hutchison will not reverse...

So Texas will probably split on the senate version...

But with the backlash that is not being reported by the MSM, no big secret there...I don’t think this latest effort to destroy this county has an appreciable amount of votes in either house...

The backlash and pressure though are being felt where it needs to be felt...


34 posted on 05/23/2007 5:06:43 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: anymouse
'we must make certain that convicted criminals are not eligible for any legalization, and if these individuals attempt to stay here, that they are arrested and promptly deported.'

I guess this is a way that those who crossed the border illegally can be exempted - they have not been convicted.

'We must ensure that only those who have played by the rules and not those engaged in identity theft receive Social Security benefits.'

If they played by the rules, they did not cross the border illegally. I don't think any of them should be eligible until they become citizens - not depending on how long they have been in the country.

35 posted on 05/23/2007 5:29:36 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“In the mean time, why not enforce the laws that are already on the books?”

That is what Bill Bennett was proposing. Secure the borders and start deporting illegals that are located through traffic stops, arrests, etc. Over time, many will have been deported and won’t be able to come back in. A crackdown on employers who hire illegals will dry up the jobs for illegals. It won’t take care of most of them, but it will send the criminals and those who won’t work back home. We don’t need new legislation for this. Just enforcing the existing laws will work.


36 posted on 05/23/2007 5:32:12 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: stevie_d_64
I've sent emails and FINALLY had someone answer the phone at her Austin office. Her DC number has been busy for the past few days, as well as the Austin office. The lady said that the overwhelming percentage of the calls were against amnesty, and she will consider her constituents requests before voting.

KLBJ here just had Senator Cornyn on their news show a few minutes ago. He is definitely against amnesty and will vote against this bill.

KEEP CALLING!

37 posted on 05/23/2007 6:31:41 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Cornyn has been shown the light...And thats good!!!

Kay...Well...Miss Rangerette I believe is on her last high leg kick...I like her as a person, and met her quite a few times...And we used to agree, and dissagree fairly equally on issues...Now I find myself dissagreeing with her more than agreeing...Its a sad state of affairs...

I hope she finally realizes this real soon, and falls on the “legal” constituency side of this argument...

Every single border state needs to be on the no amnesty side...

I feel sorry for the good folks in California though...Looks like the message they (Fienstien, et. al.) want to send to the people is the pathway to citizenship is to illegally enter through California...


38 posted on 05/23/2007 7:59:55 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: EQAndyBuzz

One after another...Its job security...

And why are you sweating the ACLU??? Let them pound sand as far as I am concerned...

As long as we are catching and deporting, one of these days someones going to figure out that if you do something illegal, like enter a country illegally...Its not going to be a pleasant ride...

Just think...If we were Mexico...Those central Americans coming into Mexico are lucky if they get caught and sent to the local jail...Most of the time they are shot and killed and left to rot out in the scrub...


39 posted on 05/23/2007 8:04:59 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: anymouse
"Our country needs immigration reform. We must ensure that it's done, and done correctly.

No it doesn't!!! We need immigration ENFORCEMENT!!!
40 posted on 05/23/2007 8:06:48 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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