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Chertoff: Mexico not encouraging illegal "migration"; Senate bill is "straight w/ American public"
CSPAN video ^ | 5/25/07 | LonewackoDotCom

Posted on 05/25/2007 12:32:26 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

This CSPAN WMV file has DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff saying the following:

"If we're going to change the dynamic here we've gotta be completely honest with the American people about what's practical and what's impractical, about how long it's going to take, about how much it's going to cost and about what the collateral consequences are going to be and this bill was an effort to really be straight with the American public...

...After promoting a "holistic" aka comprehensive approach, the host asks about the NYT Mexican consulates article. Chertoff replies:

"I don't think the Mexicans are encouraging illegal migration in this country, I don't think they're discouraging it... I think they're servicing their citizens in another country... as long as they comply with the law that's really their business.

...I think they realize that in the long run they're better off [with a "guest" worker program with circular movement]"


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: aliens; chertoff; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: Nightshift; All

I honestly can’t believe what is going on!This is from the Twilight Zone!!


41 posted on 05/25/2007 1:55:08 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: RacerF150

“And this guy is DHS Secretary??? GOD HELP US!!!”

Quite a little weasel isn’t he?


42 posted on 05/25/2007 1:57:34 PM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Whata tool.

Just what were all those pamphlets handed out by the Mexican government aiding illegals to get across the border? I’d call that encouragement Chertoff.

Like I said, whata tool...a lying tool.


43 posted on 05/25/2007 2:01:35 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Like the old saying there mikey,
Better to shut your pie hole and look stupid then open it and remove any doubt.


44 posted on 05/25/2007 2:04:24 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

If this bullshit continues, it won’t be tea being thrown into the harbor - during the next revolution....


45 posted on 05/25/2007 2:19:07 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

“this bill was an effort to really be straight with the American public...”

Sounds like a tacit admission that they have been lying to us.
The funny thing is that when they admit they’re lying to us, they have to compound it with lies.


46 posted on 05/25/2007 2:27:14 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Joe Boucher

>>Better to shut your pie hole and look stupid then open it and remove any doubt.<<

I saw Chertoff on a CSPAN call-in program. A lady, who had legally applied for entry, called in and told Chertoff the proposed amnesty was unfair. He commented, “I don’t see what her problem is.”

Chertoff. What a despicable t**d.


47 posted on 05/25/2007 2:33:59 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: PGalt

>>No, open debate leading up to this fiasco would have been...”an effort to really be straight with the American public” on such an important issue you elitist creep.<<

You got that right.


48 posted on 05/25/2007 2:36:40 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: Kerretarded
IOW, a sensible immigration policy.

Wasn't Jack-off Chertoff the only U.S. Attorney from the Bush I administration who was not fired when Clinton took office? There's a reason.

49 posted on 05/25/2007 3:04:38 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: twonie
I think Chertoff should just go back to his former job - as an extra in Star Wars.

He looks a little like C3PO, but he isn't that loyal or smart. Was he the mortician?

50 posted on 05/25/2007 3:07:50 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: TheBattman

I repeat - you cannot fight a supposed War on Terror, while leaving the borders wide-open


That’s all that needs to be said....any person with walking around sense understands this...i’m fed up with this administration.


51 posted on 05/25/2007 3:39:19 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Why is Gods name should illegal immigration COST the American taxpayer one dime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tax ALL Western Union remittances sent back to Mexico!

This guy is such a chronic a$$h__e it isn’t even funny any more.

To add insult to injury....the fact that he is asking to be HONEST with “the American people” is an absolute kick in our collective nuts.

This guy couldn’t be more dishonest if he were a used car salesman with a law degree.

52 posted on 05/25/2007 5:07:27 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com; All

Question:

How does one know when Chertoff is lying?

Answer:

Whenever he speaks.


53 posted on 05/25/2007 5:09:25 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

His lips are moving...


54 posted on 05/25/2007 5:09:29 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (JulieAnnie: someone who lacks identity with country of origin and gender)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Pretty soon I am going to be registering Independent...


55 posted on 05/25/2007 5:09:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: dennisw
We need the picture of Baghdad Bob declaring that Mexico is not handing out manuals on how to sneak into the United States, maps on where to get water, how to apply for Consular Matricla cards.

-PJ

56 posted on 05/25/2007 5:21:51 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: weegee

Chertoff....ever hear of machismo? Mexican families often have over 20 kids. Guess where the surplus goes?


57 posted on 05/25/2007 5:22:07 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Shermy
Where does Chertoff get for saying such a bald-faced lie?

Bush rewards him with a gold star on his backside.

58 posted on 05/25/2007 5:55:59 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Conservative Third Party?

By Basil Harrington

“The GOP is on a downward course to becoming the party of corporate globalism, not conservatism,” said one analyst recently. “Unless Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter receives the 2008 nomination, conservatives will have no choice but to vote third party,” said another.

Conservatives all around the country are talking about the prospect of flocking to a conservative third party*, which more than likely would be the Constitution Party or the America First Party. If they were smart, they would look at the British National Party, Front National, and Vlaams Belang in Europe as models, all of which have made great strides. And unlike the phony neocon GOP in the U.S., these parties are conservative in the true sense: they want to conserve Western man and his ancestral traditions.

How has the GOP gone wrong?

First, there is no greater betrayal than over immigration. So tied to providing cheap labor for big business, all but two Republican Senators recently voted against Senator Dorgan’s amendment to scrap a guest-worker program that will overwhelmingly drive down American wages. They have sided with the corporate globalists against hard-working Americans.

There is a third-world invasion of the U.S. taking place, and many in the GOP (e.g. Bush, McCain, Giuliani, Brownback, Huckabee, Rice, et al.) have actually sided with the invaders against their fellow Americans. As Jean Raspail said in Camp of the Saints, the “best conservative book ever written,” we can make a stand now against the invaders, or we can watch the West crumble and become a third-world wasteland.

Second, the neocon war in Iraq must come to an end. The transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. It’s a product of Wilsonian utopianism, not conservatism. If we really want to end terrorism in the West, we need to (1) completely withdraw from the Middle East, (2) end foreign aid to all Middle Eastern countries, (3) deport all Muslims from the West, and (4) end all immigration from the third world.

Many do not realize it, but terrorism is primarily an immigration issue, as they are beginning to discover in the U.K. Three of the terrorists recently nabbed in New Jersey (plotting to attack Ft. Dix) were illegal immigrants who entered the U.S . from Mexico and were aided by Mexicans. Over 200,000 Hispanics in the U.S. have recently converted to Islam. And almost all previous terrorists, including those on Sept. 11, were either legal or illegal third-world immigrants. If Seung-Hui Cho had not been allowed to immigrate to the U.S., the Virginia Tech massacre would not have happened.

Third, free trade is destroying our economy and eroding away our sovereignty, and it must end. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, and they should, but many in the GOP have been “neoconned” on this issue and now support it in some perverse suicide pact.

The Democratic Party, which during the 19th century was the conservative party while the GOP was the radical left-wing party, is already lost to the globalists. And now it seems that the Republican Party is going the same route. Unless radical change is brought about in the GOP, conservatives will have no choice but foster third-party change.

The stakes are right. The U.S. is on its way to becoming a third-world wasteland. We must act now!


59 posted on 05/25/2007 7:07:56 PM PDT by Sovernity (What are You doing other than talking and listening???)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
These guys must think that we are MORONS who are susceptible to “the BIG LIE”. They are WRONG, Chertoff and the administration are lying S O B's. The fact of the matter is the hand writing is on the wall; Mexico and the Bush administration along with a majority of the politicos in Washington are in bed with one another and joined at the hip in trying to ram this ungodly mess of a bill down America's throat. Instead of solving the illegal immigration problem all it will do is exacerbate it and millions upon millions more ILLEGAL aliens will continue to invade and take over the country. EVERYWHERE I go we are seeing and hearing everything in English AND Spanish.

I heartily believe that Satan is behind this and if passed, this bill will lead to the further/future destruction of the country FROM WITHIN. Laugh if you will but if this bill passes it is the end of America as we know it. We will become a glorified banana republic of Mexico/South America run by corrupt politicians who will, as they are doing now, brazenly look the American people in the eye and lie to us. All the while telling us that it is "for the good of the country."

Our so-called "leaders" are TOTALLY DECIEVED, in their minds and eyes; black is white, up is down and wrong is right. Those of us who, by the grace of God can still see/understand the truth are looked upon by them with disdain. In their eyes, we are "yahoo's", the great unwashed masses, too ignorant to understand the grand scheme. And it is we and our children who will pay the price for their deceitfulness. Make no mistake, they will not have to suffer through the ramifications of this bill. They will retreat behind the security walls of their gated communities and their government mandated healthcare, pensions and retirement benefits which are NOT a part of the Social Security system that we peons have to live with while we and our children's children are left out in the cold to cover the cost and suffer the consequences of their treasonous actions.

60 posted on 05/25/2007 8:21:43 PM PDT by Jmouse007
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