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Another Incident Of Dumb Cops Arresting A Guy For Using An Open Wi-Fi Connection
Information Week ^ | Jun 1, 2007 | Mitch Wagner

Posted on 06/02/2007 1:03:33 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

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To: Raycpa

Its more like standing outside a restaurant with a live band and listening to the music without going in and paying for dinner. For me, what indicates that this charge is totally wrong, is the fact that the supposed “victim” didn’t have a problem with it. I could maybe understand if the victim was concerned or upset by the action.


61 posted on 06/02/2007 6:12:23 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: ga medic

If people steal bandwith from ISP providers the theft is costing the ISP customers and/or owners. The use of the service is not cost free.


62 posted on 06/02/2007 6:21:20 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

“The case has surprised locals, including the owner of the barbershop that initially called police, as well as Donna May, owner of the coffee shop.

“He could have just come in the cafe, even if he didn’t have any money, I would let him get on it,” May said. The service is provided free to restaurant customers.”

The owner doesn’t seem to care, so why should anyone else?


63 posted on 06/02/2007 6:35:58 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: Raycpa

I am amazed how few get this. Think of the coffee shop’s access to their ISP as going through a pipe of a certain diameter. The more connections, the more of the bandwidth is typically being used. Too much congestion causes delays due to dropped packets, retransmissions due to packet collisions, etc. It is definitely not free, and certainly can have an impact on legitimate users, especially if the person is downloading files, large emails, songs, etc.
The coffee shop pays for the service, and entices paying customers to use the service for free to attract business. The guy was stealing. It’s really that simple.


64 posted on 06/02/2007 8:08:12 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon, who scarce can bear its crescent moon.)
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To: feedback doctor; Harmless Teddy Bear
That's a philosophy that would lock everyone up until they can prove there's no reason to.

Doin' right ain't got no end...

65 posted on 06/02/2007 8:52:37 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Gun Control, the Sequel: More and Morerer)
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To: Raycpa
I wouldn’t use someone’s phone without asking, why would I use their internet connection without asking?

You know people who have their phones on the OUTSIDE of their houses?

Must be a real kick in the pants when it rains, or when the kids leave the cell phone under the lilac bushes, again!

I guess it takes all kinds...

66 posted on 06/02/2007 9:03:17 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Gun Control, the Sequel: More and Morerer)
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To: Publius6961
The freeloading criminals stealing music for years are seriously attempting to make this type of crime "normal" and not a big deal.

I was talking to a "jukie" the other day and and heard some fascinating anecdotal stuff about the RIAA and the juke box business.

Seems as though one of the guy's competitors was loading up his [the competitor's] boxes with pirated CDs, and the "jukie" reported this to the proper RIAA authorities, and got a big yawn back.

I was surprised, to say the least.

67 posted on 06/02/2007 9:13:20 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Gun Control, the Sequel: More and Morerer)
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To: Abby4116
"We came back and we looked up the laws and we figured if we found one and thought, 'Well, let's run it by the prosecutor's office and see what they want to do,'" Milanowski said.

Did anyone even report a theft? In this case did the prosecutor just say he committed a crime against the state or the people of the state of Michgan? Who in the state of Michigan was harmed?

68 posted on 06/02/2007 9:14:44 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
The coffee shop pays for the service, and entices paying customers to use the service for free to attract business. The guy was stealing. It’s really that simple.

Did the coffee shop have a sign that said free; or only free if you buy something? Is it then really free or is it fales advertising?

69 posted on 06/02/2007 9:18:39 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Sleeping Beauty

You don’t want others using your Wi-Fi? Encrypt it. End of story.


70 posted on 06/02/2007 9:27:24 PM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: thefactor

Seems like the law doesn’t have to ask the coffee shop anything. And just how do they know whose WiFi net he’s freeloadin off of?


71 posted on 06/02/2007 10:17:17 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: thefactor

Just like the law does not need to ask a murder victims next-of-kin if they would like to press charges (or not.) Crime against the state!


72 posted on 06/02/2007 10:21:01 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Oh please, they ALLOWED people to “come pick their flowers” and they didn’t mind when they found out what he was doing. Dumb analogy.


73 posted on 06/03/2007 6:40:01 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (Breve deep. It calms the mind.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Oh please, they ALLOWED people to “come pick their flowers” and they didn’t mind when they found out what he was doing. Dumb analogy.


74 posted on 06/03/2007 6:44:49 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (Breve deep. It calms the mind.)
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