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Mandatory Coverage Is Easier Said Than Done
NY Times ^ | June 11, 2007 | REED ABELSON

Posted on 06/11/2007 12:22:06 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 06/11/2007 12:22:08 PM PDT by neverdem
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I did not know the Constitution allowed for the government to coerce its citizens into entering a contract merely based on being alive.


2 posted on 06/11/2007 12:24:39 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Almost half of the roughly 400,000 uninsured people in Massachusetts are single males, and many young men think “health insurance is for sissies,” Mr. Kingsdale said. Because young males are generally healthy, adding them to the pool of insured would most likely reduce the average cost of coverage over all, given that this particular group is not liable to need expensive treatment.

But according to the dems and the MSM - all the uninsured are just normal down-on-their luck families - just like you and me...

3 posted on 06/11/2007 12:25:03 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: neverdem

Funny the NY Times runs with this. I’m sure they want the Gov’t to force everyone into a one-sized-fits all system.


4 posted on 06/11/2007 12:25:09 PM PDT by rhombus
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Here's everything you need to know about health "insurance" and what the great American people want.

In my travel clinic, when people who have booked a $25 000 trip to a malaria and yellow fever hot zone find out they have to pay $45 for the visit, 20% of them walk out.

5 posted on 06/11/2007 12:26:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: massgopguy

“I did not know the Constitution allowed for the government to coerce its citizens into entering a contract merely based on being alive.”

...

Next up - mandatory donations to the DNC!


6 posted on 06/11/2007 12:28:33 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: 2banana

The MSM will only discuss the true complexity of the issue after some draconian socialist “solution” is installed.


7 posted on 06/11/2007 12:29:34 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: neverdem

this was most likely Hilliary/Zoe Bairds plan B back in 93/4....Baird was the General Counsel for one of the major insurance carriers when she was nominated, Aetna IIRC.


8 posted on 06/11/2007 12:33:35 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Jim Noble
In my travel clinic, when people who have booked a $25 000 trip to a malaria and yellow fever hot zone find out they have to pay $45 for the visit, 20% of them walk out.

Yup. During the last "healthcare reform" cycle under the Hildabeast I boiled it down to:

People want the best health care someone else's money can buy.
9 posted on 06/11/2007 12:34:00 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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But according to the dems and the MSM - all the uninsured are just normal down-on-their luck families - just like you and me...

Yeah, and if one of these uninsured single males catches a deadly disease, does anyone think they will accept their fate and quietly die away? No, all of them will demand the taxpayer to cover their uninsured butts.

10 posted on 06/11/2007 12:39:22 PM PDT by Aikonaa
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To: massgopguy
I did not know the Constitution allowed for the government to coerce its citizens into entering a contract merely based on being alive.

LOL you mean like the contract you signed with the government that allows them to forcibly take your money and give it to people who won’t buy health insurance?

11 posted on 06/11/2007 12:39:41 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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Does the constitution mandate that hospitals treat all comers, as the courts have decreed?


12 posted on 06/11/2007 12:40:34 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: neverdem
(The poorest residents receive free or subsidized coverage.)

So how is this different from what we have now?

13 posted on 06/11/2007 12:41:29 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: ClaireSolt

No, federal law does. There is also no contract with the federal government signed by the individual that allows for wealth redistribution. However this contract is with a private entity that the individual is compelled to sign. It’s just like compelling a person with a drivers license to purchase car insurance even if they don’t own a car. Because they MIGHT drive a car.


14 posted on 06/11/2007 12:49:43 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: neverdem
(uninsured Americans) currently 45 million — is gaining momentum

Can ANYBODY site a source for this number? I see it all the time. What/where is the source?

15 posted on 06/11/2007 12:50:11 PM PDT by Paradox (In the final analysis, its mostly a team sport, Principles cast off like yesterdays free agents.)
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To: rhombus
The liberals don’t like this everyone-must-buy-insurance because some people would actually have to pay out of their own pockets. What the lefties want is the government to provide free, unlimited health care to all residents of the US (legal and illegal).
16 posted on 06/11/2007 12:53:04 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: ClaireSolt
Does the constitution mandate that hospitals treat all comers, as the courts have decreed?

The courts have decreed no such thing.

CONGRESS, representing YOU, passed a law requiring such a thing. The courts have zero to do with it.

17 posted on 06/11/2007 12:55:06 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: ClaireSolt
Does the constitution mandate that hospitals treat all comers, as the courts have decreed?

The courts have decreed no such thing.

CONGRESS, representing YOU, passed a law requiring such a thing. The courts have zero to do with it.

18 posted on 06/11/2007 12:55:23 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: utahagen

You don’t have to by it. You just lose your Personal Exemption on your State Income Tax form if you don’t. Which is a Win-win for those who already don’t pay income tax, and who use the ER as their primary care. I wonder how many foreclosures this will lead to?


19 posted on 06/11/2007 12:56:26 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: neverdem

Must get universal coverage through before we give a hundred million illegals their citizenship.


20 posted on 06/11/2007 12:57:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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