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Army's influence in top posts is waning
AP ^ | 11 June 07 | RICHARD LARDNER

Posted on 06/11/2007 3:08:07 PM PDT by leadpenny

TAMPA, Fla. - At a time when the Army's soldiers are doing most of the fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, the service's influence in key decision-making positions is waning.

Of the U.S. military's nine combat commands, only two are run by Army generals, and that number will be cut in half when Bryan Brown retires next month as the senior officer at U.S. Special Operations Command.

Inside the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Robert Gates is relying on officers from the maritime services to be his top advisers. He picked the current chief of naval operations, Adm. Michael Mullen, to replace Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Marine Gen. James Cartwright will be Mullen's deputy.

The lack of green-suited four-stars in top jobs is seen partly as an extension of an attitude brought to the Pentagon six years ago by former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. It's also a sign, however, of the successful culmination of a two decade effort to promote the concept of "jointness" within the military. The premise is that properly schooled officers should be able to lead troops regardless of service affiliation.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Robert Scales, former head of the Army War College who holds a Ph.D. in history from Duke University, said he could find no prior period when the Army was so engaged overseas and so underrepresented at top levels.

"It's absolutely extraordinary," he said. "I just can't believe the numbers. It's cultural, it's political, and it's deeply ingrained. I've never seen it to the degree it exists today."

Besides Special Operations Command, which is located at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, there are eight other "combatant commands." These are the structures responsible for unique wartime functions, such as transportation, or for managing troops in a particular region of the world, such as Europe or the Middle East.

Combatant commanders have short lines of authority; they report to the defense secretary and the president.

While the Army's presence in the upper ranks of these commands has diminished, the Navy's is growing. Brown, who is ending a 40-year military career in July, will be replaced by Eric Olson, a Navy special warfare officer. Olson's confirmation hearing is Tuesday.

U.S. Central Command, also headquartered at MacDill, oversees military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and is led by Adm. William Fallon.

Once Brown gives way to Olson, Navy admirals will run four of the commands. Air Force generals are in charge of three. Army Gen. Bantz Craddock is the top officer at U.S. European Command.

Cartwright, a Marine pilot, has been running U.S. Strategic Command since July 2004. He'll succeed Adm. Edmund Giambastiani, who is retiring, as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Cartwright's replacement at Strategic Command has not yet been named.

The Bush administration decided not to reappoint Pace for a second two-year term because his Senate confirmation hearing might turn into a partisan battle over the Iraq war, Gates said in a surprise announcement Friday.

Mullen, a 1968 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, "has the vision, strategic insight, experience and integrity to lead America's armed forces," Gates said a Pentagon news conference.

"The political appointees seem to be saying to the Army that its senior officers are not intellectually equipped to hold the highest levels of command," said Loren Thompson, a defense analyst with the Lexington Institute, a think tank in Arlington, Va.

Rumsfeld came to the Pentagon in January 2001 with a plan to push the military away from a dependence on large numbers of personnel and toward a high-tech approach to warfare.

With more than 500,000 active-duty troops, the Army is the largest of the military branches. Friction between its top leaders and the defense secretary was inevitable.

The tension spilled over in February 2003 when then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric Shinseki told Congress the invasion and occupation of Iraq could require "several hundred thousand soldiers."

Shinseki retired in June 2003. Rumsfeld picked Peter Schoomaker, a general who'd been retired for three years, to replace him, a move Thompson said still resonates at the Pentagon.

"When a defense secretary chooses to bypass all of the active-duty generals to find the next chief of staff, it's a sign of low esteem for the service," he said.

Col. Gary Keck, a Pentagon spokesman, said decisions on command selections are "based on the best qualified officer, not their service."

Retired Army Gen. John Tilelli, former commander of U.S. forces in Korea, agreed, saying the process is designed to be "agnostic."

"You have to look at this individual by individual," he said. "Frankly, I'm not concerned."

Generals and admirals are carefully controlled commodities; federal law prescribes how many each military branch may have. In the event of a national emergency, the president can authorize the Pentagon to waive the limits.

Following the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush did just that. There are now 39 four-star generals and admirals - 13 in the Air Force, 12 in the Army, 10 in the Navy and four in the Marine Corps.

The Army is not without generals in important positions. Gen. David Petraeus is the top commander in Iraq and is being counted on to make Bush's troop surge in Baghdad a success.

In other parts of the world, Army Gen. Dan McNeill controls all NATO forces in Afghanistan and Army Gen. Burwell Bell is the senior officer in Korea.

Yet a military branch's clout is measured by how many of its officers are in the Joint Staff and combatant command slots.

"All the services keep count, and they all think they should have a fair share," said retired Marine Corps Gen. Joseph Hoar, who led Central Command from 1991 to 1994.

When a command slot opens, each branch submits a candidate to the defense secretary, who then sends his recommendation to the White House for a final decision.

Candidates are vetted to ensure their world view tracks with that of the current administration, a process Hoar said is necessary although it makes the system "susceptible to manipulation."

"The president is entitled to have a guy who agrees with his policies," he said.

Seen through a different lens, the shortage of Army officers at the highest levels indicates that "true jointness is spreading," said Robert Work of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. But he cautions there's a downside to leaning toward one military branch.

"We are all shaped by our experiences," he said. "If everyone comes from the same background, you may not get the diversity of views you need."


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1 posted on 06/11/2007 3:08:09 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

I wonder how much of that can be attributed to Army officers resigning or retiring, before they reach the levels to earn appointments.

My own experience is that many soldiers are leaving before they reach the NCO ranks. NCO’s seem to be re-enlisting thanks to the $15k-$20k bonuses. But then this is anecdotal and doesn’t mean anything.


2 posted on 06/11/2007 3:14:17 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: leadpenny
Rumsfeld really had it in for the Army, so I’m not surprised by this. Looks like Gates is picking up where Rummy left off.
3 posted on 06/11/2007 3:15:08 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: leadpenny
A friend of mine who worked in OSD said that Adm. William Fallon was brought in because "the Army had its chance and blew it."

Right or wrong, that was the feeling.

4 posted on 06/11/2007 3:27:05 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SFC Chromey; colorado tanker

I think we’re still feeling the effects of the Shinseki flap. IIRC, Rumsfeld announced 13 months in advance that Keane (the vice) would replace him. When it came time for Shinseki to retire, Keane turned the Chief’s job down too. That’s when Sec Army White and Rumfeld brought back Schoomaker from retirement. No telling how many two and three stars got their hat at that time. It just seems like a deep hole for the Army leadership to crawl out of, and it has an impact all the way down through the ranks.

I think Gates is a straight shooter. He doesn’t have much of an alternative.


5 posted on 06/11/2007 3:30:19 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: SkyPilot

You mean as in Abezaid?


6 posted on 06/11/2007 3:32:02 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Steel Wolf

ping


7 posted on 06/11/2007 3:35:35 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

GO NAVY!!!!


8 posted on 06/11/2007 3:35:41 PM PDT by Bombard
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To: leadpenny
I guess he meant Abezaid as CENTCOM - and other Army leadership in general. I didn't agree with him - I thought Abezaid did a great job. He spoke Arabic and did a lot of great diplomacy.

The problem is, everyone at the Pentagon knows Iraq is not going well and they are looking for scape goats.

9 posted on 06/11/2007 3:37:44 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: leadpenny
Another article / MSM piece trying to suggest there is a problem...where none exists. The Big Green is still very well represented throughout this WOT.....To suggest otherwise is foolishness.
10 posted on 06/11/2007 3:43:15 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: SkyPilot

The shortage of qualified senior Army generals also explains Casey being ‘fired up’ to the CofS’s job after Iraq. That’s almost like bringing Scoomaker back from retirement.

I’m not disparaging any of the generals but under more normal times, there would be senior three stars waiting in line for the vice or the chief’s job.


11 posted on 06/11/2007 3:45:17 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: DevSix

It exists. It’s existed every since Rumsfeld started playing hardball without listening to his generals.


12 posted on 06/11/2007 3:47:59 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
I hope you’re right about Gates. His being so closely associated with Bush 41’s crew of “realists” makes me nervous as does his surrender over Gen. Pace.
13 posted on 06/11/2007 3:51:18 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: leadpenny
It’s existed every since Rumsfeld started playing hardball without listening to his generals.

That is such convoluted BS - Reality is the Big Green got Iraq all to themselves (on the whole) just like they asked for....It was "their game" and SOF (and others) were told to F-off (for the most part) early on....

Now a small segment of them want to cry......Give me a break.

Reality is the Old Big Green needed to be changed. SecDef Rumsfeld made it so......

Furthermore on the whole since Sept 11th, 2001 our enemies have had their as$es handed to them. They have suffered one strategic defeat after another......Yes, we've lost some d*mn good men & women (great warriors)...but our nation is safer, the world is safer and we are in the long process of changing the ME and dragging it out of the dark ages....

This reality is often overlooked with all the hand wringing, sky is falling BS we hear 24/7..... From many who don't have an F'ing clue what they are talking about.

Get it straight, the Old Big Green doesn't like playing support...and SecDef Rumsfeld told them they had to play that role in Stan and they've cried ever since....

14 posted on 06/11/2007 3:57:51 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

I’m not the who needs to get it straight..

Rumsfeld failed miserably. The 172nd Stryker debacle didn’t just happen out of the blue. Oh, he showed the Army a thing or two . . . and they’re still trying to recover. Schoomaker went public with his fight over what Rumsfeld was doing to the Army budget and, oh yeah, why did Rumsfeld leave in the dark of election night?


15 posted on 06/11/2007 4:05:13 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Pentagon scuttle has it that the Army has been the most bureaucratic, and by far the most resistant to modernization. They’ve done an excellent job in Iraq, but the future model is Afghanistan, using a military with better civil relations, armor, weapons and squad level communications.

I could go on, but I know many here know far more than I.

16 posted on 06/11/2007 4:11:55 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: leadpenny
SecDef Rumsfeld left after the 06 election (where fools in the GOP base stayed home)...because like always, he is a man who put the well being of this nation (and us warriors) ahead of himself.

He understood very well what a lighting rod he had become to the MSM/DEMs and how they would keep him in TV hearings after hearings (all the while spinning and lying). No SecDef could be effective in such a scenario.

So instead of playing politics and staying on the job he and CinC understood he had to go.

That is the reality. That you try and use the disgusting ilk of the DEMs for an attack on him leaving office speaks volumes about where you are at (and I expect better leadpenny).

The Old Big Green was given Iraq.....and you are upset that it isn't going better (when on the whole it actually is)...but nonetheless...SOF/USAF/USMC were given Stan early on....and.....

17 posted on 06/11/2007 4:12:20 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

You know it. SOF ruled in the Stan. That is the future model.

West point still keeps cranking out too many group thinkers and game board players. We need more rebels like Patton in wartime.


18 posted on 06/11/2007 4:17:00 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Wiseghy

From what I hear the Army does a pretty good job of adapting. It’s just not big enough. It could have been, had Rumsfeld allowed it to start growing right after 9-11. What bit the Army was the deployment tempo for the too few Combat Brigades.


19 posted on 06/11/2007 4:18:22 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: DevSix

He cut and ran because it wasn’t going to get any better. It’s taken over six months to get five (5) brigades to Iraq for a socalled ‘surge.’ Rumsfeld made the mess that he left.


20 posted on 06/11/2007 4:22:10 PM PDT by leadpenny
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