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Space Shuttle's Left Wing May Be Damaged
nbc4.com ^ | 20070612 | NBC News space correspondent Jay Barbree

Posted on 06/12/2007 4:48:53 PM PDT by XBob

Space Shuttle's Left Wing May Be Damaged Meteorite, Space Junk May Have Struck Panels

POSTED: 5:13 pm EDT June 12, 2007 UPDATED: 7:00 pm EDT June 12, 2007 Email This Story | Print This Story Sign Up for Breaking News Alerts WASHINGTON -- A meteorite or space junk may have struck Space Shuttle Atlantis' left wing, according to NBC News space correspondent Jay Barbree.

NASA recorded a hit on reinforced carbon panels 7 and 8 on the left wing. The panels keep heat from re-entry from burning the spacecraft.

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This is the same area where foam damaged Columbia's left wing and caused it to break up, killing its crew on Feb. 1, 2003.


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KEYWORDS: damaged; leftwing; nasa; shuttle; shuttleatlantis
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To: magellan
Aren’t they currently docked at the International Space Station? If so, they can determine for sure if there is a problem, and if there is, they can hang out at the ISS until the they can get a ride home.

All true. As part of the post-Columbia protocol, they have time and tools to evaluate the damage, and to patch the RCC panels where they are. If they can't be patched to NASA's satisfaction, there's another bird on the pad -- Endeavour, I think -- ready for a rescue mission. If that is deemed too risky, they can evacuate via Soyuz.

If Atlantis cannot be repaired in orbit, if NASA is not convinced that it can be cleared for re-entry, it will be jettisoned. And that will mean the end of the Shuttle program, and of US manned space missions for at least a decade. It will also mean an end to the construction plans for the ISS, because there isn't another craft that can do the heavy lifting. The ISS itself is stable, and Americans will still be present, but they'll be thumbing a ride from the Russians.

Meanwhile the supplies and capacities of the ISS and orbiter are sufficient to keep the crew safe and (relatively) comfortable for weeks, if need be. This is a concern. There is no urgency.

161 posted on 06/12/2007 6:00:04 PM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Severa

How do we sit through it?

Lemme tell ya, SEND ME NEXT!!!!

Is it dangerous, yeah, Fer cripes sake, they sit in a vessel lashed to a ‘Controlled Explosion’. Having said that, ‘SEND ME NEXT!!!’

Not a one of the astronauts is dragged kicking and screaming into the Shuttle. Remember, the Shuttle with the damaged wing, flew, coming APART, the crew never knew. It isn’t ‘Clunky’. Not ‘Outdated’. It is my view it is a solid piece of engineering.

As with computers, when a design is finalized, it is ‘obsolete’. Give credit to those able to fly. I wish I were one.


162 posted on 06/12/2007 6:00:20 PM PDT by RoadGumby
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To: oldleft

You are aware that the shuttle is going to be phased out in a couple of years, right?


163 posted on 06/12/2007 6:00:31 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: VRWCTexan

I think the goal is to have CEV flying by 2014. I’ve heard somewhere that NASA wants to move this date up but they are going to have issues to work out. After 2010 the US is going to have to rely on the Russians for transportation to the Space Station.


164 posted on 06/12/2007 6:01:13 PM PDT by Keflavik76
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To: IslandJeff

Sure. They just happened to get up ther on boosters designed for the space programme and launched from places like government launch facilities. Not one taxpayer dollar spent to get them there.


165 posted on 06/12/2007 6:01:16 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Severa

I’m twenty years older than you and when I was in grade school we got let out of class to gather around a small black and white TV in the school library and watch the launches.

The landings at sea and naval recoveries were also quite something.


166 posted on 06/12/2007 6:01:58 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD --- VOTE FOR FRED!!.)
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To: kjam22

Call and apply for a position fixing those problems, OR deal with Physics and the limits it applies.


167 posted on 06/12/2007 6:02:35 PM PDT by RoadGumby
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To: jimtorr
Throwing them hither and yon to get a close look at pretty moons circling Saturn, Uranus and whatever is not. Many of those unmanned missions cost Billions.

They generally don't, actually. Mars Rovers were about 300 million a piece. The highest end-expense ones like Cassini do come in at 3 billion or so.

And they've actually discovered a lot of amazing stuff. Name me one interesting discovery of the International Space Station.

And the total costs of all countries involved for the ISS are difficult to estimate, but I've seen figures as high as 100 billion.

168 posted on 06/12/2007 6:02:35 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Alter Kaker

As with running the Marathon, you need to learn to walk first. NO knowledge is useless, it is POWER. Think about it.


169 posted on 06/12/2007 6:04:14 PM PDT by RoadGumby
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To: jimtorr

Speaking as a NASA supporter I’d have to say the main problem with the ISS is where it’s at.

They should have put it at a Lagrange point between the Earth and the Moon and only put a refueling/pit stop in LEO.

An LEO refueling/pit stop could have been resupplied automatically with bulk cargo on a much more aggressive and less expensive bulk freight and having the ISS at a Lagrange point would have allowed a much more efficient transfer to the Moon or outer solar system.


170 posted on 06/12/2007 6:04:53 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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To: advertising guy
Take a hammer to those carbon panels and you'll be the cause of another Columbia.

IIRC they are on the leading edge of the wings.

171 posted on 06/12/2007 6:04:59 PM PDT by X-FID
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To: Army Air Corps

I know you’re after my overstatement, understandably, but I think most commercial launches were/are of a French ballistic from various points around the world.


172 posted on 06/12/2007 6:05:29 PM PDT by IslandJeff ("I used to care, but things have changed" - Robert Zimmerman)
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To: dragonblustar; ssaftler; LucyT; Old Student; Shadowstrike; Paul Ross; RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; ...
I have an idea.. Let us not panic and find out the facts first..


173 posted on 06/12/2007 6:06:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: Jet Jaguar

My solution was to take a rubber-like sticky pad with a nipple near the center and put it over the damaged spot and then inject a two part, internally mixed, ablative compound into the nipple. Just let the sticky pad and the ablative compound slowly burn off during re-entry.


174 posted on 06/12/2007 6:07:36 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: COBOL2Java

There are literally tens of thousands of pieces of space junk big enough to track from the ground. The Chicoms probably added another 10,000.


175 posted on 06/12/2007 6:09:16 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: IslandJeff

Many are, but many others have been launched by the Shuttle, the Atlas family of boosters and so on. Boeing’s Sealaunch comes the closest to a truly private launch capability. Others are in the works with boosters that have had successful test firings. France’s Ariannespace is largely government owned (albiet European, but government none the less).

I know that I pounced. Sorry about doing so rather harshly, but I just wanted to make a point. No harsh feelings, FRiend?


176 posted on 06/12/2007 6:10:10 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: IslandJeff
The French commercial launches are performed at Kourou, French Guyana.
177 posted on 06/12/2007 6:11:18 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Freedom4US

oh my ...that would be horrible


178 posted on 06/12/2007 6:14:31 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: tricky_k_1972

What you describe is what was proposed in a NASA document regarding Skylab. After the last mission, one proposal was to replace the gyros, boost its orbit a bit, and use it like a construction site trailer/truck stop for work on a larger space station (i.e. Space Station Freedom).


179 posted on 06/12/2007 6:14:34 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Strategerist
Name me one interesting discovery of the International Space Station.

By building on the SkyLab and Mir experiments, the ISS has continued to prove that nations can work together to keep people alive in a hostile environment for long enough to reach our nearest neighbors. They have also inspired on least one kid somewhere to dream about more than football and video games.
180 posted on 06/12/2007 6:15:16 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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