[Ingtar]

Are they truly such idiots that they would allow the bill to come back to the floor and vote for cloture under these circumstances, under any circumstances?

Sadly, I'm thinking the answer is "yes."

[bpjam]

How about a ‘largely symbolic’ vote on deporting the illegals who committed additinoal felonies or were known gang members?

How about a ‘largely symbolic’ vote on refusing free public services (except for life threatening emergencies) to individuals who are NOT legal citizens or naturalized citizens?

How about a ‘largely symbolic’ vote on children being removed from the schools when their illegal parents go back South of the border? Or at least have 25% of their paychecks garnished to go to the school districts to cover the education of the illegal children they brought to the US?

How about a ‘largely symbolic’ vote on stopping all future illegal immigration?