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House rejects security fence at the border
The Business Journal ^ | Friday, June 15, 2007 | Not Identified

Posted on 06/16/2007 5:18:55 AM PDT by radar101

The U.S. House of Representatives shot down a proposal Friday by U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz, that would have built an 854-mile, double layered security fences along the Mexican border.

Franks noted that only 13 miles of a Mexican border fence approved last year have been built and that the fencing is needed to improve border security.

"With over 4,000 people crossing our southern border illegally every day, our border remains one of our country's most critical national security vulnerabilities. In order to carry out an act of terrorism, a militant Islamist simply needs a porous border and a dangerous weapon," said Franks in a statement.

Franks represents Glendale, Peoria, Sun City and Kingman.

The fence plan failed by 272 to 149 votes. Most Democrats (including Arizona congressional members Harry Mitchell, Gabrielle Giffords , Ed Pastor and Raul Grijalva) voted against the border fence plan.

Most Republicans (including Franks and fellow Arizona Reps. Rick Renzi and John Shadegg) voted for the comprehensive fence plan.

Mesa GOP Congressman Jeff Flake crossed party lines and vote against the border fence bill.

The House did approve an overall homeland and border security appropriations bill Friday. Mitchell said he backed that bill because it allocates federal money to hire more Border Patrol Agents and resources to deport violent illegal immigrant criminals.

"Deporting those illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes is absolutely imperative to keeping our communities safe," Mitchell said in a statement. Mitchell represents Tempe and Scottsdale.

The state's four Democratic representatives and Renzi voted for the final bill. Flake, Franks and Shadegg opposed.

The votes could be a precursor to a big political fight over immigration reforms, a guest worker program and how to deal with the 12 million illegal immigrants already in the U.S.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; fence; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; noamnestyforillegals; sellouts
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1 posted on 06/16/2007 5:18:59 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

Idiots.

They still don’t get the message.

The way to prevent the ship from sinking is to plug the hole first, then bail out the water.


2 posted on 06/16/2007 5:20:58 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: radar101
IS THERE ANY QUESTION AS TO WHY WE DON'T TRUST CONGRESS ABOUT THE BORDER??? ANY??? THEY GRANT AMNESTY AND THEN WE KNOW DAMN WELL THEY'LL GUT THE SECURITY PORTION. JUST LIKE THIS.
3 posted on 06/16/2007 5:21:37 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: radar101

More traitors named.


4 posted on 06/16/2007 5:21:45 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope.)
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To: Farmer Dean

This a test to see who will probably vote for the senate bill if it passes?


5 posted on 06/16/2007 5:23:25 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: radar101
Lines have been crossed folks.

It's way past time for the pitchforks.

6 posted on 06/16/2007 5:24:48 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: radar101

What more do we need to hear? These traitors have no intention of locking down anything.


7 posted on 06/16/2007 5:25:26 AM PDT by Edgar3 (Steve Spurrier for President!)
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To: radar101
The fence plan failed by 272 to 149 votes.

Those 272 need to be sent to the unemployment line ----

8 posted on 06/16/2007 5:25:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: radar101

Link Congressional pay to completion of the fence. When the fence is 100% completed they will get 100% of their pay.


9 posted on 06/16/2007 5:28:57 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: radar101
"Deporting those illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes is absolutely imperative to keeping our communities safe," Mitchell said in a statement.

Deporting all illegal aliens should be imperative Mr. Mitchell!
10 posted on 06/16/2007 5:29:43 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: radar101
W T F ???
11 posted on 06/16/2007 5:31:34 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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To: radar101; LucyT; Rushmore Rocks; MamaDearest; KylaStarr

HORSES ASSES..........They just prove it over and over again.They obviously don't represent their constituents and do whatever the hell they please up there. May be time to change the way that government runs or doesn't in this case and many others. It all appears hopeless to me, they want to ruin this country for some reason that I haven't figured out yet.


12 posted on 06/16/2007 5:32:20 AM PDT by WestCoastGal ( The JUNIOR NATION is VERY proud of our driver. You drive we'll follow! There ain't no turning back!)
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To: Mark was here

Their offical paycheck is nothing compared to the money made by influence peddling,lobbyist kickbacks,bribes,gifts,etc.Most of them wouldn’t even notice the loss of the government check.


13 posted on 06/16/2007 5:33:02 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope.)
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To: radar101
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14 posted on 06/16/2007 5:34:22 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: radar101
Supposedly, being "closer to the people" than the members of the House of Lords, I thought maybe the majority of the House of Reprehensibles would side with their constituents on these immigration and amnesty issues.

Now I'm not so sure.

Things look bleak, don't they.

Leni

15 posted on 06/16/2007 5:37:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Don't give up the ship. Keep phoning & emailing. Remember, we lost the Alamo!)
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To: radar101

To all those who say the border cannot be fixed and the rot stopped, read this article http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

In the 50’s over 1 million per year were coming across then Ike took action. Below is from the article. IT WORKED UNTIL AGAIN THERE WAS NO POLITICAL WILL.

“In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph “Jumpin’ Joe” Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner.

Then on June 17, 1954, what was called “Operation Wetback” began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.

By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free.

Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south.”


16 posted on 06/16/2007 5:38:59 AM PDT by dirtstiff
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To: radar101
Deporting those illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes is absolutely imperative to keeping our communities safe.

And if you don't have a fence, what the HELL is the point of deporting them??? They're just going to turn around and WALK RIGHT BACK IN the NEXT DAY!!!

17 posted on 06/16/2007 5:39:47 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: radar101; spectre; truthkeeper; AuntB; Diogenesis; Travis McGee; kabar; angkor

bttt...:(


18 posted on 06/16/2007 5:44:05 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: blam
Burn DC to the ground!!

The British tried but it was rebuilt. ;o)
20 posted on 06/16/2007 5:49:25 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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