Posted on 06/16/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
We can all understand the push by big business to keep their steady flow of illegal laborers coming in, strengthening their bargaining position against blue-collar working class Americans. Then again, they already have that today in droves. Why the sudden balls-to-the-wall push to get it all "kosher" right now? Mickey Kaus forwards a theory:
Chertoff and Kyl both seem to have answered that question recently, Kyl in his Wall Street Journal interview and Chertoff on Fox News yesterday: because businesses are starting to worry about efforts to enforce immigration laws at the local level. One state in the vanguard of that effort is Kyl's (and McCain's) home state of Arizona, where the legislature has passed numerous laws (usually vetoed) on the issue, and where the public voted for Prop 200 back in 2004.
To me that says something far more ominous than that Congress is being disingenuous or naïve on the matter. Far from simple being empty promises, this amnesty bill is actually a blatant attempt to head off any attempts at enforcement at all.
I think this is probably right. I think big business realizes that voters are going to extract some very explicit and unequivocal promises from their candidates next year. I think they realize at this point that a number of their champions on this bill are not coming back to Washington after the next election.
Big agriculture and big construction realize that they'll be faced with a new Commander-in-Chief, Democrat or Republican, who will likely have made a list of unequivocal promises to the voters during the campaign. Given the opportunity to build up public goodwill with a series of big, high-profile immigration busts in her first six months of office, does anyone think that President Hillary would pass it up? If she's anywhere near as calculating as her reputation suggests, there's not a chance she'll pass up that opportunity.
A Republican President would feel less need for high-profile token efforts, but may bring in a Justice Department that actually cares about national security. (How crazy would that be?) If you're an employer who's been skirting the law for years with a wink and a nod, this change in the winds has to be keeping you up at night--with good reason. Some CEOs looking at public opinion polls and knowing their employment rolls haven't been even close to right with God, have to be dealing with some serious heartburn at the thought of angry villagers at the corporate gates demanding massive fines and/or a few years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
If the employers can just get across the line on this, they've significantly reduced their exposure. This Amnesty Bill represents a sort of "get out of jail free" card for these executives. Whether it'll actually work out that way is another matter. They see the writing on the wall, and they're pulling out the stops to protect their own hides, even if they have to wreck their own country to do it. Of course, jamming this piece of sh*** down our throats only adds to the long list of reasons we're already pissed as hell at the employers and their elected cronies.
This may be your time, fellas. You may have the upper hand now. The men in power are your boys, and you may get them to vote how you like, even against the clear will of the people who sent them there. Enjoy it while it lasts, but don't forget it for a second: our time is coming. You have the cash, but we have the numbers. A whole lot of us have damn long memories. We're gonna remember every bit of this sordid ordeal. And payback, as they say, is a bitch.
ping for Monday read.
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AG Gonzales has already admitted he has relatives in the USA that are illegal aliens - He hedged by saying he does not know if they are working here illegally
Zoe Baird
Kimba Wood
Both were pulled by Bill Clinton after nominating them for his AG before Janet Reno
George W. Bush attempted to nominated Linda Chavez to his Cabinet but it was discovered that she had a “house guest” (LOL!) who was/is an illegal alien
Now Linda Chavez is doing the Geraldo Riviera screaming “racist bigots” about you in nasty rants on TV and in editorials
Rassmussen sez 80% of Americans oppose this Shamnasty Bill
Another poll sez 70%
The Bush WH & Tony Snow tout an LA Times (LOL!) pro-illegals push poll
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I’m not interested in pleasing Jeb Bush’s (US Customs “avoiding”) Mexican wife or his coke-head daughter
Rumor over a year ago was that George HW Bush was alleged to have had illegals working as domestic help at some time
How many in the Bush WH and Cabinet have illegal aliens working for them or have in the past?
why did Bush try to slip Linda Chavez by the democrats in the Senate after Zoe Baird & Kimba Wood were exposed and discarded?
Clinton gave up on them
Why is Bush embracing AG Gonzales when he has confessed to knowing his family is involved in sneaking across the Mexican border?
After the 2006 bill Bush said “I’ll (maybe) enforce the laws!”
I believe it is time for some Senators in both parties to join Duke Cunningham in prison
Amd some judges and hotshots at Swift, Del Monte, Tyson, etc.
55% of Democrats are against this crooked bill
Over 65% of Independents are against it
Over 90% of Republicans are against it
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I smell lots of bribes and payoffs in Congress and “elsewhere”
(and you know where I’m talking about!)
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PS - Bush’s style of “fighting” the WOT is reminding me more and more of LBJ
The Fort Dix 6 is just the tip of the iceberg kids
The 911 skyjackers bought their IDs from a Mexican illegal alien
Good information devolve.
I don’t know. Does anybody think a Clinton will ‘cross’ Tyson Foods?
I think there is also a very personal angle for Bush : he wants lay the groundwork for his nephew George P. Bush who he nicknamed "44".
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Thanks potlatch
I forgot to also mention that USA black citizens have wised up to this BS too
The upcoming flood of hispanic illegal aliens will first target their jobs and their kid’s futures
Agreed our choices exist but not clear. Somewhere there is a model and it is being followed; it is not Capitalism versus Communism versus Islam versus Fascism: these are old and already discarded historical classifications. I don't know what they are calling it if anything since I am not with Bilderburgers, but some kind of Bildung for sure.
Limited? Not at all, which is blatantly obvious.
That old movie Network nearly gave away the show. There is no USA, there is no Russia, etc.
Fact is the borders are open. The USA has never been real clear on the concept of borders. Not in Vietnam, not in Iraq, not in Arizona, etc. Rome was like that, too, which was fine for their program so long as they were extending dominion. Are we extending dominion?
Where?
(You posted the same link twice, was this one supposed to go to a graphic?)...
Good post 3AngelaD.
I know I’m not going to forget Mel Martinez my senator treating me like a p.o.s.
I sent him a protest letter concerning his amnesty bill and in return he sent me a plea for money for the R,N,C.
He can kiss my you know what and so can the R.N.C.
Still waiting for someone, anyone, from the federal government to address these 20 loopholes. Bush is trying to make this go away by flinging $4B at that imaginary fence/border security just repudiated by the traitors in the House.
It should have linked to Potlatch’s Peanuts. Might have been a duplicate of a post to Potlatch rather than general.
How much does it cost to give 11 senators so much money that they don’t care if they lose an election?
Even if they "win" with their shamnesty bill, it will only be a Pyrrhic victory, which will turn to ashes in their mouths. All this bill will do is pour gasoline on the fire of CW2. They can declare 12-20 million criminal invaders to be "legal" residents, but they can't make it stick with Joe Sixpack.
When the economy inevitably cycles into a deep recession, there will be a desperate struggle for any job at all. At that point, Joe Sixpack will look at a "Z-visa" as a confirmed illegal alien ID.
J6P isn't going to say, "Well okay Pedro, you take the job. I don't mind losing my house, it's okay."
No, he's going to say, "Hey Pedro, where you from? You no speaky English?"
And that's when CW2 will begin.
As opposed to a constitutional, sovereign republic, what choices thinking of?
Or...What choices are you thinking of?
Is there no way any bill such as this can be challenged in the courts?
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