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Why the Railroad Effort on the Amnesty Bill?
Jawa Report ^ | June 16, 2007 | Ragnar Danneskjold

Posted on 06/16/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

We can all understand the push by big business to keep their steady flow of illegal laborers coming in, strengthening their bargaining position against blue-collar working class Americans. Then again, they already have that today in droves. Why the sudden balls-to-the-wall push to get it all "kosher" right now? Mickey Kaus forwards a theory:

Chertoff and Kyl both seem to have answered that question recently, Kyl in his Wall Street Journal interview and Chertoff on Fox News yesterday: because businesses are starting to worry about efforts to enforce immigration laws at the local level. One state in the vanguard of that effort is Kyl's (and McCain's) home state of Arizona, where the legislature has passed numerous laws (usually vetoed) on the issue, and where the public voted for Prop 200 back in 2004.

To me that says something far more ominous than that Congress is being disingenuous or naïve on the matter. Far from simple being empty promises, this amnesty bill is actually a blatant attempt to head off any attempts at enforcement at all.

I think this is probably right. I think big business realizes that voters are going to extract some very explicit and unequivocal promises from their candidates next year. I think they realize at this point that a number of their champions on this bill are not coming back to Washington after the next election.

Big agriculture and big construction realize that they'll be faced with a new Commander-in-Chief, Democrat or Republican, who will likely have made a list of unequivocal promises to the voters during the campaign. Given the opportunity to build up public goodwill with a series of big, high-profile immigration busts in her first six months of office, does anyone think that President Hillary would pass it up? If she's anywhere near as calculating as her reputation suggests, there's not a chance she'll pass up that opportunity.

A Republican President would feel less need for high-profile token efforts, but may bring in a Justice Department that actually cares about national security. (How crazy would that be?) If you're an employer who's been skirting the law for years with a wink and a nod, this change in the winds has to be keeping you up at night--with good reason. Some CEOs looking at public opinion polls and knowing their employment rolls haven't been even close to right with God, have to be dealing with some serious heartburn at the thought of angry villagers at the corporate gates demanding massive fines and/or a few years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

If the employers can just get across the line on this, they've significantly reduced their exposure. This Amnesty Bill represents a sort of "get out of jail free" card for these executives. Whether it'll actually work out that way is another matter. They see the writing on the wall, and they're pulling out the stops to protect their own hides, even if they have to wreck their own country to do it. Of course, jamming this piece of sh*** down our throats only adds to the long list of reasons we're already pissed as hell at the employers and their elected cronies.

This may be your time, fellas. You may have the upper hand now. The men in power are your boys, and you may get them to vote how you like, even against the clear will of the people who sent them there. Enjoy it while it lasts, but don't forget it for a second: our time is coming. You have the cash, but we have the numbers. A whole lot of us have damn long memories. We're gonna remember every bit of this sordid ordeal. And payback, as they say, is a bitch.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cheaplabor; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; pitchforkpat
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To: Night Hides Not

The link between massive illegal immigration and terror by Arabs is weak. Twenty or thirty million illegal alien Mexicans wandering around is the problem. But, why is that a problem? and terror isn’t it.


21 posted on 06/16/2007 8:35:28 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: sam_paine

Except that the bill ensures the status quo of continued taxpayer subsidies for the employees of the businesses employing illegals, in fact, it writes such subsidies into law.


22 posted on 06/16/2007 8:35:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: RightWhale
They may be in the phase where Marie Antoinette commented on the lack of bread.

Without a doubt.

23 posted on 06/16/2007 8:36:55 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Yeah, it takes me a while...I'm a lowly English major and not too into business and economics (except for basic stuff), but sheesh...even a blind squirrel can find a nut occasionally.

And this particular nut is getting pretty damn big.

24 posted on 06/16/2007 8:40:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Most of us don't know what is in this bill. We only know that the Democrats want to pass it. That alone should be enough to make any American wary.

The invasion of illegal aliens across the Mexican border amounts to a massive demographic population shift. Our own government is not only encouraging this invasion but will do nothing to protect America against its ravages.

The solution is simple:

1. begin immediately to deport all illegal aliens as they can be caught and apprehended.

2. Impose heavy fines against anyone, person or business, who aids and abets the crime of illegal immigration.

3. Deny any Social Security or Welfare State benefits to non-citizens of whatever national origin.

4. Build a sufficient barrier along the border to keep illegal aliens out of the country.

5. Enforce all immigration laws now in effect.

6. Issue an ID card to all non-citizen.

7. Halt all immigration for 75 years.

8. Allow a time limit guest worker program with proper registration and monitoring systems.

BTW, it’s not true that illegal aliens take jobs Americans will not take. It is true that Americans will not work for the low wages illegal aliens will work for.

25 posted on 06/16/2007 8:40:25 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: truthkeeper

Yes, you nailed it. Everything is supposed to be up and functioning by 2010, so this is their opportunity if the trains are going to run on time.


26 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:14 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: 3AngelaD
I love that picture of the terrorist on the airport xray.

That pic sure says it all.

Nam Vet

27 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:21 AM PDT by Nam Vet (Timely reporting from Attila's right flank)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
6. Issue an ID card to all non-citizen.

Simple?

Ihre Papieren, Bitte!

Don't have papers.

Oh, in that case you're okay. Go ahead.

28 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: 3AngelaD
Maybe Bush is looking at the big picture and taking a long view. A VERY long view.
Maybe Uncle George has good reason for wanting as many "Mexican-Americans" here in the USA as possible:


29 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Speak for yourself. I read the thing, and I read the Congressional Budget office report on it, as well as Rector’s analysis. And I’ve been trying to get ahold of the amendments Dirty Harry agreed to allow to be debated next week. I agree with your solutions.


30 posted on 06/16/2007 8:48:18 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

It’s not just big business executives who want the amnesty. It’s millions of small business owners. For example, We just had our roof on an 11 year old house ripped off and replaced by “Home Depot”. Now what Home Depot and Loews for that matter hires reputable firms who do good work and charge the buyer extra for guaranteed longer life. It is a small house, 1680 Sq. Ft. on a mountain with lots of wind, but they had two crews of about 15 guys on the roof together, doing the job for in about 5 hours with a guaranttee of 50 years, translating to the next buyer if that should happen. Also, landscape crews headed by small business owners are almost totally in the gardening/landscaping business in two southern states where we do a lot of business. There’s is not question that Hispanics are very good workers and most of them undoubtedly are illegal. We have friends in the road construction/black top business. They do hire illegals, they earn a good salary. live in modern double wides with nice interiors, drive newer cars, and have their children well dressed and polite.

Cordio


31 posted on 06/16/2007 8:49:05 AM PDT by Cordio
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


32 posted on 06/16/2007 8:50:11 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Lancey Howard

P is for pissant. BTW Jeb’s wife is Columba and her dad was a migrant worker. The Wikipedia entry mentions (LOL!) that neither her mother or father was Mestizo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columba_Bush


33 posted on 06/16/2007 8:50:15 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Most of us don't know what is in this bill.

What is in the bill does not matter a whit to the MOTU. Proof is in the fact that they would not even amend it to exclude criminals and scofflaws. What sane being would not vote for that?

No, I have come to the conclusion that the bill is only a MacGuffin. In a nutshell, this was Alfred Hitchcock's term for weird, obtuse turns in the plot that were completely secondary to his main goal of presenting the visual impact and suspense of his movie. Inotherwords, it was difficult to follow where the money was hidden, where the suspect worked, etc. But Lordy...you sure remembered the shower scene, or Cary Grant being cropdusted!

This bill is only a MacGuffin...it is not the goal.
The agenda is a North American Union.

34 posted on 06/16/2007 8:51:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: OK

“I think it has more to do with the CFR push to integrate Canada/USA/Mexico into one political unit.....”

BINGO!!BINGO!! If YOU were a huge corporation...would you rather deal with a few corrupt and readily, cheaply bribed
Mexican-type federale official....or a US congresscritter....


35 posted on 06/16/2007 8:51:46 AM PDT by mo
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To: Cordio

I resent paying taxes to subsidize the employees of small business owners as much as I resent paying taxes to subsidize the employees of big businesses.


36 posted on 06/16/2007 8:54:43 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: mo
...would you rather deal with a few corrupt and readily, cheaply bribed Mexican-type federale official....or a US congresscritter...

Neighbor, I believe you are repeating yourself...

37 posted on 06/16/2007 8:55:28 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Lancey Howard

That’s exactly right.

George Bush has had a hidden agenda, on so many fronts, since before he was President.

He is manipulative, disingenuous, and downright sneaky.

And he is a condescending elitist, to boot.


38 posted on 06/16/2007 8:56:07 AM PDT by SerpentDove (If it walks like a lame duck, and quacks like a lame duck, it's a lame duck.)
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To: Cicero
Each party needs the other to blame the fallout on.

Excellent analysis. Quite logical and believable.

39 posted on 06/16/2007 8:56:48 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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