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China building more power plants
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6769743.stm ^

Posted on 06/20/2007 11:56:26 AM PDT by chessplayer

"China is now building about two power stations every week, the top climate change official at the UK Foreign Office, John Ashton, has said."

"He said there was no point blaming China for rising global CO2 emissions."

"He pointed out that much of China's emissions growth was being driven by consumers in the West buying Chinese goods, and noted that China's emissions per person were still well below those of rich nations."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; climatechange; co2; environment; globalwarming
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I knew that as soon as China overtook the US in CO2 output, someone would spin it and downplay it.
1 posted on 06/20/2007 11:56:27 AM PDT by chessplayer
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Its ok for communists to polute. Its not ok for capitalists to polute.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 11:59:43 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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Is it the West or just human beings and their needs in general?


3 posted on 06/20/2007 11:59:57 AM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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It’s Bush’s Fault! /sarcasm


4 posted on 06/20/2007 12:00:07 PM PDT by NoBullZone
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Well I guess China better stop selling to us evil Americans.


5 posted on 06/20/2007 12:00:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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Alaska’s carbon emissions per capita are well above average for the USA. Alaskans: doing work Chinese won’t do.


6 posted on 06/20/2007 12:01:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Its ok for communists to pollute. Its not ok for capitalists to pollute.

In this case I suspect it won't be long before the world decides that America should pay for China's carbon offsets so they can continue polluting.
7 posted on 06/20/2007 12:02:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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The socialists who work for BBC have taken China as their new model. As they did with the Soviet Union, they will attempt to blame all Chinese excesses on the West.


8 posted on 06/20/2007 12:02:47 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHOa)
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"He pointed out that much of China's emissions growth was being driven by consumers in the West buying Chinese goods,"

That's easy to fix, put high tariff's on Chinese stuff and just quit buying it.

Emission's problem solved.

9 posted on 06/20/2007 12:03:24 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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The title is misleading - it’s not the BBC blaming the west for China’s CO2, it’s a ‘climate change official’.


10 posted on 06/20/2007 12:04:05 PM PDT by britemp
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How dare the people of China make use of the same technologies that we in the West have used to become affluent! It is their moral duty to adopt voluntary simplicity.
11 posted on 06/20/2007 12:08:29 PM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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The title is misleading - it’s not the BBC blaming the west for China’s CO2, it’s a ‘climate change official’.

That's because the original title is: "China building more power plants"

Maybe they should use a statistic that's more relevant than emissions per capita, since China has population over 1 BILLION. How about emissions per square mile or square kilometer.

12 posted on 06/20/2007 12:11:01 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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and noted that China's emissions per person were still well below those of rich nations."

Very clever. The media ivory towers are tweaking their methods since the G8 where Pres. Bush included China in negotiations.

China has over 1 billion people so if calculated per person they will "lag" behind the rich nations for years.

13 posted on 06/20/2007 12:12:22 PM PDT by what's up
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I see you're thinking along the same lines as I am.

Per capita? What a laugh.

14 posted on 06/20/2007 12:13:42 PM PDT by what's up
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Amazing that communist China gets a pass on this when they have absolutely no standards whatsoever. /scratching head


15 posted on 06/20/2007 12:26:36 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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China's emissions per person were still well below those of rich nations."

LMAO. China's EVERYTHING per person is well below those of rich nations because China has eleventyseven billion people, you idiot.

16 posted on 06/20/2007 12:26:48 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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You knew this was coming.

It was never O.K. for the United States “pollution” factors to be the result of it being the economic engine of the world economy, but if that engine is to switch to China, then a rationale must be produced to keep the blame on the U.S.

Of course, if the U.S. agreed to that prescription and greatly reduced what China could export here, then the same elites at the BBC would blame the U.S. for depreciating the economic growth of China. The BBC will always have it both ways, in the negative, with respect to the U.S.

Like most of the U.S. media the BBC is a political-agenda-machine masquerading as “journalism”.


17 posted on 06/20/2007 12:27:04 PM PDT by Wuli
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OK all gather hands and lets boycott any and all goods from China. See who they blame then.


18 posted on 06/20/2007 12:35:54 PM PDT by Shots (If you see Known Illegal Immigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
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He pointed out that much of China's emissions growth was being driven by consumers in the West buying Chinese goods

Apparently Mr. Ashton believes that consumers in the West are forcing the Chinese to produce goods and emissions. I assume Mr. Ashton would be in favor of a Western boycott of Chinese goods.
19 posted on 06/20/2007 12:39:25 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I knew that as soon as China overtook the US in CO2 output, someone would spin it and downplay it.

I don't think it's being downplayed as it is putting it into proper perspective.

The reality is, the rich nations, produce significantly more CO2 on a per capita basis than the developing nation. That always needs to be kept in mind. People throughout the world ought to be allowed to increase their energy consumption for a better standard of living, even if it means equaling the output of the rich nations on a per capital basis. Unless of course, the rich nations are willing to lower their energy consumption thereby lowering the CO2 emissions on a per capita basis.

Developing nations, on the other hand, such as China, produce more CO2 per unit of energy produced (CO2 per unit of BTU) because they are relatively poor nation that rely more heavily on coal.

China needs to be pressured to make their country greener (reducing the CO2 emission per BTU produced), while at the same time be allowed the same level of total CO2 emissions as the US on a per capita basis.

The rich nations need to spend the resources to pioneer greener energy sources. The poor nations need to quickly follow suite thereafter.

20 posted on 06/20/2007 12:48:31 PM PDT by ponder life
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