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Backward, atheist soldiers!
WORLD Magazine ^ | June 30, 2007 | Marvin Olasky

Posted on 06/22/2007 9:07:12 AM PDT by Caleb1411

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To: massgopguy

An extremely insightful comment. And that is just the tip of the iceberg...


21 posted on 06/22/2007 9:42:44 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [protest for... violence and peace])
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To: Caleb1411
Here, for example, is Dawkins' view of God: "arguably the most unpleasant character in fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

Dawkins "view of God" has got be the most illogical statement ever.....Stupid...you say God does not existed God is fiction... but what you list clearly does existed it's not fiction...

So physics created and dictates that law of the universe and the men that do it all without God ...If you rant about what's real...rant about the real sources not what you say is fiction

That the same as cursing your luck and saying luck does not exist all at the same time

And if you say that the fiction cause the bad then the fiction can cause the good

22 posted on 06/22/2007 9:48:22 AM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: Caleb1411

For people that claim not to believe in God, these athiests sure do hate Him.


23 posted on 06/22/2007 9:49:38 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Doing my part to warm up the planet... Because Bikinis Beat Burkas!)
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To: tophat9000

Dawkins is a kookburger of the first degree. But contrary to popular belief, not all atheists are Marxists. Some of us are actually conservative.


24 posted on 06/22/2007 9:52:00 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
then he said he came to the realization that there is no such thing as an athiest in a foxhole.

There may be no "athiest in foxhole" but there does seem to be a lot of asshole's in atheism

25 posted on 06/22/2007 9:53:38 AM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: Caleb1411
WORLD for two decades has reported stories around this country of compassionate evangelicals who must be dumb, because they've spent their lives in a racket that's yielded them almost no money. They've adopted hard-to-place children, built AIDs orphanages in Africa, helped addicts and alcoholics to turn their lives around, transformed the lives of teens who were heading into drugs and crime, and much besides.

A point that often gets overlooked in a world full of Benny Hinns and Jan Crouches. Most churches and most Pastors are hard working and frugal. My Church supports a number of missionaries around the world, has an active AIDS ministry and an active youth ministry that has helped hundreds of kids lost in drugs and sex to straighten out their lives. Most of these people would be classified as middle class - not rich.

Unfortunately, good deeds don't draw the amount of attention that the charlatans and crooks do, a fact that ignorant atheists like Hitchens use to their full advantage.
26 posted on 06/22/2007 10:04:39 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (..and the horse you rode in on!)
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To: rock_lobsta
For people that claim not to believe in God, these athiests sure do hate Him.

Quizzical, isn't it? For a number of the atheists I've known, it's a rebellion. They don't want to acknowledge God's right to call the shots in their lives here and hereafter. They could easily find rational reasons to believe if they wanted to, but they're not willing to give up their favorite sins (or admit the fact that they're sinners in need of a Savior).

At least I can like their candor. What sticks in my craw are the Christian posers who are really wolves in sheep's clothing. Better an honest atheist than an ersatz "Christian."

27 posted on 06/22/2007 10:04:47 AM PDT by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Unfortunately, good deeds don't draw the amount of attention that the charlatans and crooks do, a fact that ignorant atheists like Hitchens use to their full advantage.

It's gotta be willful ignorance. As much evidence (you've cited but one of myriad examples) as there is and as bright and journalistically astute as Hitchens is, there's no excuse for his myopia.

28 posted on 06/22/2007 10:10:35 AM PDT by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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To: TheDon

autotheist is short for automobiletheist


29 posted on 06/22/2007 10:10:49 AM PDT by Bidoof
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To: gura

Nothing turns me off more than someone whining about it. That’s why God invented the remote.


30 posted on 06/22/2007 10:11:09 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Caleb1411
The main problem with arguments from atheists against "religion", is that they just lump them all together, effectively sharing with Christians the blame for Muslim atrocities, since it's all "religion".

As Jesus taught, "By their fruits ye shall know them." The fruits of various religions are by no means equal. It's intellectually lazy and disingenuous to lump all of them together, then criticize only the most rotten fruit.

Dawkins, and others like him, have consistently tried to measure religion with the tools of science. This is rather like trying to measure the wavelength of a radio signal with a ruler. It's just the wrong tool for the job.

31 posted on 06/22/2007 10:12:19 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: Caleb1411

bump


32 posted on 06/22/2007 10:12:39 AM PDT by VOA
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To: darkangel82
The thing is a simple indifferent I don't believe in God atheist a least is following the logic of their own idea...

The rabid I hate God/Their is no God atheist just seem to be just angry at the laws of Universe and blaming what the say is not ...they rant at the moon

33 posted on 06/22/2007 10:14:46 AM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: TChris
As Jesus taught, "By their fruits ye shall know them." The fruits of various religions are by no means equal. It's intellectually lazy and disingenuous to lump all of them together, then criticize only the most rotten fruit.

Yup. As I wrote in post 28, it's willful ignorance, not to mention shoddy argumentation.

34 posted on 06/22/2007 10:17:42 AM PDT by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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To: stm
If you live your life as if there is no God, for your sake you better damn well be right.

There's a corollary to that: If you believe that there is only one denomination, sect, or faith tradition that is 100% the only one to pick, then you had better well have chosen wisely.

Not every atheist is anti-Christian. We may not have chosen as you have, but generally, we celebrate your right to make your choices freely.

35 posted on 06/22/2007 10:28:17 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: najida

The concept of freedom is very scary to some.


36 posted on 06/22/2007 10:49:23 AM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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To: gura
Nothing turns me off from religion more than the behavior of Christians in threads about Atheism.

Then what would you have us say about atheism, that it's wonderful? Especially in light of the quotes from atheist authors above? No sarcasm, I'm serious -- what in your view is the right way for us to respond?

37 posted on 06/22/2007 11:03:16 AM PDT by Zhangliqun (The Blue and Gray had infinitely more in common than the Blue and Red. We're headed for Civil War.)
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To: Caleb1411
I'll take Pascal's Bet, thanks.

From the earliest instant, when even time itself had just come into being, the symmetry of the creation event was broken, and nuclear strong and weak/electromagnetic forces somehow therein also gave rise to gravitation which, though exceptionally weak by the other three, nonetheless gradually coalesced their parts into various galactic types and structures.

And as we live in one out of billions of those spiral galaxies, two thirds of the way out from its dense center between whirling arms which are relatively debris and dust free; where metals are fairly well concentrated, but rarer in the Milky Way’s outer reaches…. Where too, were we further in, we wouldn’t be able to see the universe outside.

That we live in the habitable zone of a single G2V star, in a system with a large outer planet to sweep up a considerable amount of debris that might otherwise be drawn to the inner solar system and collide with Earth. That we have a magnetic field which protects us from too much cosmic and solar radiation, and allows us too – geometrically by the more distant stars – to navigate around our planet.

That we have a moon massive enough to stabilize our planetary axis, and which perhaps also couples gravitationally to assist plate tectonics in recycling our oceanic crust and mantle, yielding a balance of nitrogen/oxygen and carbon dioxide to our atmosphere. That the laws of physics at both the macro- and micro levels should be so fine tuned - and unified! - allowing these processes to be carried out at all.

That we are alive in such a system!

The odds of it – ALL - seem somehow inconceivable that there isn’t God who – being God sets the values of good and evil, and cares that we should prefer that Good.

"If I knew God I’d be Him." Though He’s there.

38 posted on 06/22/2007 11:09:31 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tzimisce
I’ve been told Atheism is not a religion. If that’s true, we can ban these people from talking...

You and what army?

39 posted on 06/22/2007 11:29:13 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: tophat9000

There’s not a lot of atheists on Death Row either...


40 posted on 06/22/2007 11:41:30 AM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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