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Live Thread: Senate Amnesty Debate (CRITICAL 2ND CLOTURE VOTE TODAY!) Woo hoo!! It's DEAD!!
The U.S. Senate with Free Republic Input | June 28, 2007 | truthkeeper

Posted on 06/28/2007 6:25:57 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Here we are again my friends, hopefully for the last debate thread on this particular monstrous legislation. Proceedings are supposed to begin at 9:30 a.m. EST, with the cloture vote being taken at 10:30 a.m.

On a personal note, you've all been wonderful in your passion, vigilance, and commitment to the principles on which our country was founded. If I have to be in a foxhole, I want to be in it with you guys.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; itsdeadjim; sellouts; stickaforkinit; ussenate; vampirebill
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To: Cedric
Reid is the MAJORITY LEADER. He would’ve gotten “credit” had this monstrosity passed, ergo....

No he wouldn't - Bush would have. Bush was the one championing it and the one responsible for reviving it.

It is apparent that you are someone that looks at the political parties as sports teams that you root for. You just refuse to acknowledge that some of the members of your "team" aren't what you thought they were.

2,081 posted on 06/28/2007 10:39:14 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Grunthor

My answer is that the flood gates are still open so the question is moot....


2,082 posted on 06/28/2007 10:39:50 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: TC Builders
Not according to Earthdweller we should all being crying like him that it didn’t go though.

Really? Hmmm... just ignore him then. No reason to let someone rain on our victory parade for right now. Like I said, the war is far from over and we'll need to keep fighting for border security and enforcement, but we also need take a little time to appreciate every victory we get.

2,083 posted on 06/28/2007 10:40:02 AM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: The Blitherer
You’re right. I should’ve used either dimwit or troll. To have used both was utterly.........redundant.
2,084 posted on 06/28/2007 10:40:58 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: The Blitherer
Yea..you guys go ahead and party..don't mind me. Just let me know how you all feel in the morning when you wake up and all the illegals are gone...oh wait. They will still be here. Never mind.

Have a nice day. Wouldn't want to spoil anyone's fun.

2,085 posted on 06/28/2007 10:42:59 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Cedric
You’re right. I should’ve used either dimwit or troll. To have used both was utterly.........redundant.

Actually might I recommend changing them to either "mentally challenged" or "mountain-dweller". You know, cause they're more PC.

;-)

2,086 posted on 06/28/2007 10:43:05 AM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: Snoopers-868th
Cloture thread, replies 282 and 304

LGF

Fortunately this one was a false alarm : the poster said it's just the janitor's union. I have a sneaking suspicion , though, that there may be some efforts to 'drum up" protests-we shall see if there are and if it works, over the next few days. I predict if they try this, they'll schedule major marches for July 4th, and try to present themselves as "ordinary immigrants-and if you disagree, that' makes you racist". If they do, it could very easily backfire.

2,087 posted on 06/28/2007 10:43:22 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: The Blitherer

I know, the guy is not really getting to me, I think he may be Jorge Bush by the way he is sounding.


2,088 posted on 06/28/2007 10:43:27 AM PDT by TC Builders
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To: Cedric
How, exactly, does the MONORITY party revive legislation AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE MAJORITY party?

Geesh, this isn't hard. Why is it just you that doesn't get it?

I will help you with it. The democratic party liked the legislation and why wouldn't they since it would create a permanent democratic majority. They weren't pushing it though - they were along for the ride.

The bill died two weeks ago because some renegade republicans (i.e. conservatives) wouldn't back the bill. Over those two weeks, Bush and the GOP senate leadership pressured them reconsider.

When enough pressure had been applied, the GOP notified Reid that it was safe to call for another vote.

Any questions?

2,089 posted on 06/28/2007 10:43:37 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

So, Bush can push through legislation against the wishes of the majority party in congress: Are you serious?


2,090 posted on 06/28/2007 10:44:30 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: prairiebreeze

I think that is a Very Distinct Possibility-I’ll be surprised if they don’t try something like that.


2,091 posted on 06/28/2007 10:44:36 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Snoopers-868th

Sen Sessions home office

The Honorable Jeff Sessions
7550 Halcyon Summit Drive
Montgomery, Alabama 36117

PH: 334-244-7017


2,092 posted on 06/28/2007 10:45:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: The Blitherer
Actually might I recommend changing them to either "mentally challenged" or "mountain-dweller".

Actually, you might want to read Cedric's bizarre statements before jumping onboard.

2,093 posted on 06/28/2007 10:45:52 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; truthkeeper

 
    HAPPY     DAYS    

ARE    HERE    AGAIN
 

2,094 posted on 06/28/2007 10:45:54 AM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

THANKS for the list! Among Repub’s who voted YEA on this thing, we should also include Brownback and Voinovich, who voted YEA but changed to NAY when it became apparent the bill was going to die.

So it’s the Dirty Dozen plus two.
NOW - Which are up for election in 2008?
Our next job is to TARGET THEM in their primaries.
I am serious, enough with this...

2008 ELECTION - AMNESTY ACTION LIST:

RINOs voting YEA, up for re-election in 2008 - RECRUIT OPPONENTS:
Craig, Larry (R-Id) (may retire)
Graham, Lindsay (R-SC) (a leader in the pro-amnesty effort)
Hagel, Chuck (R-Neb) (may retire)

“Switched” votes today, up for re-election in 2008, unreliable - KEEP UP PRESSURE, recruit opponent:
Warner, John (R-Va) (may retire)

Switched over course of bill, lesson learned for re-election in 2008? - KEEP UP PRESSURE, recruit opponent:
Chambliss, Saxby (R-Ga)
McConnell, Mitch (R, Ky - Minority Leader)

GOOD GUYS up for re-election in 2008, deserve our $Support:
Sessions, Jeff (R-Ala)
Cornyn, John (R-Tx)

FULL LIST OF RINOS VOTING YES FOR AMNESTY:
Bennett
Craig
Graham
Gregg
Hagel
Kyl
Lott
Lugar
Martinez
McCreep
Snowe
Spector


2,095 posted on 06/28/2007 10:46:58 AM PDT by Shazolene
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To: Earthdweller

“My answer is that the flood gates are still open so the question is moot....”

They do not have to be if the head of DHS was into doing his job at the border.

BUILD THE DAMNED FENCE, THEY HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.


2,096 posted on 06/28/2007 10:47:26 AM PDT by Grunthor (Once a cobra bit Fred Thompsons' leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.)
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To: potlatch
Wow, does that pic ever warm my heart. That's our idiot mayor (L.A. - Villaragosa) in there too.

Actually, I live in the 'burbs so he's not really MY mayor, but...hee-hee, still delightful!

2,097 posted on 06/28/2007 10:48:29 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Cedric
So, Bush can push through legislation against the wishes of the majority party in congress: Are you serious?

Geesh, are you being obtuse on purpose? The democrats liked the bill, they just weren't pushing it. The republican leadership loved the bill too, but the few conservatives in the senate did not.

The bill wasn't being held up by democrats but by conservative republicans. Bush, Lott, McCain and Kyl arm twisted the republican holdouts for two weeks until enough of them agreed to reconsider.

2,098 posted on 06/28/2007 10:48:37 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: anymouse

“today we showed that WE are THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, where freedom exists because we are willing to fight for it”

That’s something that the 25,000,000 plus illegal aliens do not understand...


2,099 posted on 06/28/2007 10:49:12 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Charles Martel

Please, check this out:

ICE deports man convicted of sexually assaulting girl, 3 (MN)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857776/posts

They need to get the illegals out, now.

Do you know how many of these guys are caught numerous times and walk because immigration can’t send someone to pick them up? So they tell them to turn em loose?


2,100 posted on 06/28/2007 10:50:20 AM PDT by AliVeritas (America, love it or leave it.)
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