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Bush: Americans will realize need for aliens
The Washington Times ^ | July 20, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 07/20/2007 6:17:46 PM PDT by Baladas

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To: 1rudeboy

The facts remain the same. Americans are dieing at an elevated rate because of illegal immigration and we are attempting to justify that by saying we get cheap food. If that were true it would be bad enough but it’s not true. The hidden cost of the cheap food, schools, emergency rooms etc. nullifies any savings.


381 posted on 07/21/2007 6:27:25 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

If the facts are on our side, we don’t need to make-up numbers.


382 posted on 07/21/2007 6:28:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I haven’t made up any numbers.


383 posted on 07/21/2007 6:29:26 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: SoldierDad

I grew up in South Jersey and I can tell you for a fact that about 50% of the produce was picked by Immigrant labor. This was in the late 1960’s through the mid 1970’s. I worked on many of those farms as a kid.


384 posted on 07/21/2007 6:34:57 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: ontap

Neither have I. Your point?


385 posted on 07/21/2007 6:35:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Anti-Bubba182

A government for and by the corporation.

It’s all about profit. It’s all about the bottom line with these globalist.

To hell with the American standard of living.


386 posted on 07/21/2007 6:35:43 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: 1rudeboy

I made a post in answer to your post and you ignored it to comment on the content of another post.


387 posted on 07/21/2007 6:37:19 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: servantboy777

Exactly.


388 posted on 07/21/2007 6:38:16 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: 1rudeboy; ontap

But the majority of Americans are not on your side, we want the border sealed and the illegals deported. Then we can decide how many legal immigrants we need and from where with what skill set.


389 posted on 07/21/2007 6:41:05 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Baladas

He musta played the Red Queen...


390 posted on 07/21/2007 6:41:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: ontap
I made a post in answer to your post and you ignored it to comment on the content of another post.

Please review our exchange. I made a comment that forty murders per day attributed to illegal aliens is probably inaccurate, and you responded "Yeah, but." So what? The number's inaccurate.

391 posted on 07/21/2007 6:43:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Hydroshock
So now you're telling me what my side is? Pathetic.
392 posted on 07/21/2007 6:45:35 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Your side the OBL are losers, 3 times running. 2006 and twice in 2007. So far the American people are winning, the globalist elites are not.


393 posted on 07/21/2007 6:47:36 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: bray
"If you ate Food today, Thank a Mexican."

Yes ... by all means ... don't thank the farmer who put his assets at risk year after year, or the truckers that haul the stuff ... let's drop to our knees and give thanks to someone who illegally enters and stays in the country and costs us money. That makes abundant sense.

Of course, if the Mexican you feel so deeply for is here legally and working on the books, he deserves credit too, but certainly not exclusively.

394 posted on 07/21/2007 6:48:48 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Hydroshock

The whole argument is about legal versus illegal, they always try to make it about racism which is just a red herring. We can have all the immigrant labor we need but they need to be documented, they should not be allowed to abuse our facilities and the employers should be made to pay the actual cost of their labor instead of passing it on the us. These guys know all this they just won’t admit it. Truth be known most of the people on this forum defending illegals are the one’s hiring them.


395 posted on 07/21/2007 6:49:30 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap
Agreed, we need to know who they are and make sure the number is what we need with out artificially suppressing wages.
396 posted on 07/21/2007 6:51:45 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Baladas

“President Bush yesterday said Americans will soon realize they need the immigrants...”

Bush is calling us “stupid” AGAIN.


397 posted on 07/21/2007 6:52:21 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Hydroshock

My side is “the OBL?” For the mere fact that I appeared on this thread to comment that a number is inaccurate? What side do you represent? The Clueless?


398 posted on 07/21/2007 6:53:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

And I gave you that and said even if that numbers as stated is wrong there is a correlation between illegals and American deaths. Of course you choose to ignore it it’s a favorite tactic not to debate but go off on another tangent. You still haven’t responded to my original post.


399 posted on 07/21/2007 6:55:15 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: 1rudeboy

I have seen your other posts.


400 posted on 07/21/2007 6:57:37 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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