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Bush: Americans will realize need for aliens
The Washington Times ^ | July 20, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 07/20/2007 6:17:46 PM PDT by Baladas

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To: Sacajaweau

Smart move by the local farmers in your area. The customers might even pay for the novelty of picking their own food (so money saved and doubly earned for the farmer, and the customer gets to pick fresh produce and the fruits/vegetables/nuts that are of high quality—seems to be a win-win situation).


361 posted on 07/21/2007 5:05:53 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Baladas
.........that pretty shortly people are going to be knocking on people's doors saying, man, we're running out of workers."

This coming from the President of the United States. Have we really sunk this low???

362 posted on 07/21/2007 5:08:21 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: sdillard
I would love to have a chat with your “Advocates” about their assumption that working at Walmart or Target is a “dead end” job and that they are “unacceptable”.

What a bunch of Yahoo’s.

A person has to start somewhere and both companies promote from with in,so I fail to see how those jobs are “dead end” jobs.Besides someone got to man the registers or stock the shelves so the “advocates” can purchase their Food or other Merchandise or do these morons think some kind of retail fairy keeps the shelves stocked.

I guess anything to keep the welfare cases high goes, otherwise they might be out of a job.

363 posted on 07/21/2007 5:09:36 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proudly supporting our Troops and Allies!!!!)
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To: bray
Where you going to find these law abiding people to pick the crops??

I think you are looking at the problem all wrong.

Suppose that all illegal aliens were rounded up and exported, what would happen to all those tomato's in the field? They would rot and the price of tomato's would skyrocket. No one is going to buy overpriced tomato's, so the tomato farmer goes out of business or plants something profitable. This time the farmer studies the market and figures the cost of LEGAL workers into the cost of his produce. That is how the free enterprise system regulates itself.

The other thing that is overlooked is that individuals or small neighborhood can raise their own fruits and vegetables. It really isn't that hard. Ever hear of 'Victory Gardens?' That's how America got most of it's vegetables during WWII.

Personally, I love tomato's. I grow one cherry tomato plant on my deck that keeps my salads filled with tomato's all during the summer. If the price of lettuce skyrockets, I'll grow my own lettuce. America doesn't NEED mass produced produced harvested by ILLEGAL aliens.

Your desire to protect law breakers to protect the low cost of mass produced vegetables doesn't really seem in line with your other Christian views. IMO. Doing the right and legal thing is sometimes more costly, but it is always better then doing the wrong thing.

Sincerely
364 posted on 07/21/2007 5:13:51 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: bray
America doesn't NEED mass produced produce d harvested by ILLEGAL aliens.

Fixed. Sometimes I type too fast and proof-read too slow.
365 posted on 07/21/2007 5:18:06 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: Baladas
Is it time to jump on the F-U Bush bandwagon that's being pulled by the Democrats?

My temper is nearing the boiling point on this issue.

366 posted on 07/21/2007 5:19:30 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: cva66snipe
Sorry, but health cards only apply to Rich American-born fat-cats
like yourself.
Illegals must be exempt for multicultural reasons that are
beyond your simplistic education.
367 posted on 07/21/2007 5:24:26 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: All

Heh, Heh, Suckers
368 posted on 07/21/2007 5:28:58 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: SoldierDad
Are you suggesting that all the rapes and murders being committed in this country are committed by illegal immigrants only? Source please.”

Dear FRriend,
It was never said anywhere that rapes and murders were ONLY committed by illegal aliens.

In fact, there is an incremental increase in the number of rapes and murders
sustained by Americans directly because of illegal aliens,
and that number has been estimated on the order of, at least, 40 deaths per day.

Your post appears to indicate that you think that there is no incremental increase
of either due to illegal aliens, and I suspect you know that isn’t realistic.

"Talk is based upon the assumption that you can get somewhere if you
keep putting one word after another." - Iblis Ginjo

369 posted on 07/21/2007 5:29:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
and that number has been estimated on the order of, at least, 40 deaths per day.

Hope you don't mind that I don't just accept your estimates. Please provide the source for that information.

370 posted on 07/21/2007 5:37:41 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: Baladas
Mr. Bush said there are workers who will do jobs Americans aren't doing in the agriculture sector in particular, and without them the jobs will go unfilled

Colorado let loose some prisoners to pick fruit and that worked out pretty well. God knows we've got no shortage of them.

371 posted on 07/21/2007 5:47:09 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: SoldierDad
Please provide the source for that information.

I don't know where diogenesis got their information, but here is one source...The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration.
372 posted on 07/21/2007 5:49:23 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: SoldierDad

If you figure (conservatively) 20,000 murders in the U.S. per year, then 40 per day roughly translates to 75% of the total. Granted, illegal immigrants commit murder at a rate proportionally higher than the legal population, but that number still appears to be way off.


373 posted on 07/21/2007 5:52:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kimberly GG
Agree on this point.

vaudine

374 posted on 07/21/2007 5:53:52 AM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: SoldierDad
I guess American history doesn’t include teaching on this subject.

Obvious that most here are products of our 'publik skools'.

Somebody up above suggests everybody pick their own produce. ;^)

375 posted on 07/21/2007 5:59:47 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Baladas

Not as long as we got 12-20 million here now.


376 posted on 07/21/2007 6:01:37 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Live Earth: Pretend to Care)
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To: 1rudeboy

There all not murders, deaths from DUI would be included as well as other deaths. if you add in deaths caused by the drug trade coming across the border it gets even nastier.


377 posted on 07/21/2007 6:20:13 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

That’s not what the original post claimed.


378 posted on 07/21/2007 6:20:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: yorkie
“When are we going to demand that the freebies to illegals stop?”

Most Americans have been demanding that the “freebies to illegals” stop for months. That’s not the point, though. The illegals have to be stopped. We need to make life in the US so painful and unattractive to them that they leave...on their own dime.

When the social benefits to illegals are cut off, and we make it a crime (with a federal prison sentence) for employers to hire illegals, they will head back to their homeland, and our nation’s chances for long-term survival will dramatically improve.

379 posted on 07/21/2007 6:22:12 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB
When the social benefits to illegals are cut off, and we make it a crime (with a federal prison sentence) for employers to hire illegals, they will head back to their homeland, and our nation’s chances for long-term survival will dramatically improve decrease.

There...fixed it.

380 posted on 07/21/2007 6:26:05 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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