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To: Baladas

He’s right and he’s wrong. We need immigrants and we need more citizens or our social security system will collapse. However, his bill was not the answer.

How many illegal aliens are not working in the U.S. now because the Senate failed to pass his bill? None, I think.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 6:22:30 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: Tall_Texan
He's right and he’s wrong. We need immigrants and we need more citizens or our social security system will collapse. However, his bill was not the answer.

As someone who has paid tens of thousands of dollars into Social Security, I would love to see it collapse completely. And I wouldn't even want a refund. I wish the government, right now today, would stop cutting social security checks and stop taking social security out of paychecks. And I honestly don't care if you are 55 years old and have paid into the system for the last 40 years. Tough luck. Just end it.

32 posted on 07/20/2007 6:34:23 PM PDT by joseph20
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To: Tall_Texan
I think you're right, TT. We do need some unskilled workers in this country; it is the "curse", I guess, of an educated citizenry.

I just wish the conservatives would move on: Bush knows he lost, and though he had a point to make, he should have put border security first.

The War on Terror, tax cuts, a conservative judiciary and the protection of innocent life are things most conservatives can agree with the President on...perhaps we can focus on those things now.

35 posted on 07/20/2007 6:35:04 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Tall_Texan
How many illegal aliens are not working in the U.S. now because the Senate failed to pass his bill? None, I think.

Bush cruised through Beverly Hills and was appalled at how long the yards have gotten, and how dirty the pools have become. All the proof he requires.

57 posted on 07/20/2007 6:46:39 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Tall_Texan
and we need more citizens or our social security system will collapse

Thus the reason the entire SS system must be privatized. And your benefits should be directly tied to the ACTUAL contribution you made - much like an IRA/Annuity is.

Nothing in the US Constitution mandates (or even authorizes) the Federal Government exact a tax on working citizens to pay for retirement benefits for retirees and those who cannot (or claim to not be able to) work.

76 posted on 07/20/2007 6:56:28 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Tall_Texan
One more insipid insult to my intelligence. Bush really has hit the skids. He and Chertoff are pissing me-off.
195 posted on 07/20/2007 8:13:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tall_Texan
How many illegal aliens are not working in the U.S. now because the Senate failed to pass his bill? None, I think.
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And how may Legal Citizens and Legal Immigrants are working now? More, I think.

I agree with your Tag, but as a resident of central Texas I am still leaving all my windows open and having to cover with a sheet at night. Thank goodness for lower AC bills this year.

434 posted on 07/21/2007 8:36:45 AM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: Tall_Texan
We need immigrants and we need more citizens or our social security system will collapse.

In other words, rather than try and find a permanent solution to the problem, let's see if we can keep the ponzi scheme going a bit longer?
729 posted on 07/23/2007 12:52:26 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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