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(RON PAUL opposes) Administration Plan to Subsidize China’s Nuclear Industry
Human Events ^ | 06/06/2007 | Timothy Carney

Posted on 07/22/2007 2:02:07 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

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To: elhombrelibre; OrthodoxPresbyterian
You can bash Bush all you want, but he’s one thing Ron Paul will never be: President of the United States of America.

Your kneepad's are showing, no shame. Your problem isn't with Dr. Paul at all. This attack would have been warranted should this had been(enter your favorite target here), at least in your eyes. Blackbird.

101 posted on 07/22/2007 4:06:34 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: JoinJuniorAchievement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK8n3OE_LFA&mode=related&search=


102 posted on 07/22/2007 4:07:04 PM PDT by JoinJuniorAchievement (“ I am a Veteran, I support Ron Paul.")
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To: vbmoneyspender

Sorry Ron, but I could never support the closing of the Gitmo detention facilities at this time. I see no purpose in continuing listening to you and your positions any further.


103 posted on 07/22/2007 4:07:40 PM PDT by gitmogrunt (8 years of Clinton ,8 years of Bush leaves me in a country I don't recognize anymore)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Sanders, Paul, or Fortenberry will likely act once Ex-Im receives the application, and possibly hold hearings on the deal, which would be the largest subsidy in Ex-Im history.

The U.S. subsidizing Red China's acquisition of advanced nuclear technology is an astonishingly silly waste of taxpayer money. We have to borrow money every year to run our government as it is; thinking part of that money that is borrowed is going to the PRC acquiring more nuclear technology is bad enough, but when you consider that Red China is currently lending money to our government, that really takes the cake.

We will be paying the Red Chinese to take the reactors; the money that we are using to pay is borrowed in part from Red China; and we are going to pay interest on that money forever!

Red China has plenty enough dollars to finance this technology. My goodness, they are trying out to figure out how to invest the $1.2 trillion that they have sitting around presently, and have used a small fraction of that to buy into the Blackstone Group (a Carlyle enterprise, by the by; I have left an accompanying Japanese translation in):


China to invest in U.S. private equity group
(中国、米プライベート・エクイティ・グループに投資)
by Andrew Ross Sorkin and David Barboza
IH:May 20, 2007

NEW YORK: The Chinese government said Sunday that it would acquire a $3 billion stake in Blackstone Group, the private equity firm, in the first effort by Beijing to diversify its $1.2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves beyond U.S. Treasury bills and into commercial enterprise.

アメリカ短期国債以外に、そして営利事業に、$1.2兆に上る外貨準備を多様化する為の、中国政府による初めての努力の中、中国政府は日曜日、プライベート・エクイティ会社のブラックストーン・グループ株、$30億相当を取得すると語った。

The deal, set to coincide with Blackstone's $4 billion initial public offering this year, will give China a roughly 8 percent stake in Blackstone, which owns companies with 375,000 employees and $83 billion in annual sales.

ブラックストーンが今年予定している$40億相当のIPOと同時に行われるこの取引は、従業員375,000人、年間売り上げ$830億の企業を所有するブラックストーンの株式約8%を、中国に与える事になる。

It would also represent a watershed for the booming private equity industry as it attempts to gain a foothold in China.

また、成長著しいプライベート・エクイティ産業が中国に足場を得ようとする中で、それらの企業にとって重大な転機を現す事になるだろう。

"It's a historic change," Stephen Schwarzman, co-founder of Blackstone, said during an interview. "It's a paradigm shift in global capital flows."

「歴史的変化だ」 とブラックストーンの共同創立者スティーヴン・シュワルツマンがインタビューの中で言った。 「グローバル・キャピタル・フローのパラダイム・シフトだ」。

He called the Chinese government's decision "huge" and even "surprising."

彼は中国政府の決断を「非常に巨大」、そして「驚き」とすら呼んだ。

China has been grappling with how to invest its foreign reserves more aggressively. In March, China said that it would set up a special investment vehicle - the State Foreign Exchange Investment Company - to handle a portion of those reserves, which are now held by the central bank, in the hopes of earning a higher return for the country.

中国はより積極的な外貨準備投資方法に取り組んできた。 中国は3月、国家の為により高い利回りを稼いでくれる事を願って、現在は中央銀行が保有している外貨準備の一部を取り扱うべく、特別投資手段(国家外貨投資公司、SFEIC)を設立する、と述べた。

The agency is not yet operating, but the Blackstone deal suggests that the Chinese government is eager to put its vast reserves to work outside of China. Still, as Blackstone begins to invest in emerging markets like China, the deal offers the prospect that at least some of the money could find its way back to China. Indeed, Blackstone is planning to open offices in Hong Kong and Beijing this year.

この期間は未だ稼動していないが、ブラックストーンとの合意は、中国政府は莫大な外貨準備に中国国外で稼がせたがっている事を示唆している。 しかし、ブラックストーンが中国のような新興市場で投資を開始する中、この取り決めは、少なくともこの資金の一部は中国へ還流出来る、という可能性を提供している。 確かに、ブラックストーンは今年、香港と北京事務所の開設を計画している。

For years, China has invested in foreign currency, particularly U.S. Treasury bonds, which have earned a safe but modest return. But now, with the dollar in decline and the Chinese government willing to take on more risk to earn higher returns, the new agency is being modeled, in part, on Temasek Holdings, the state-owned investment vehicle in Singapore, which has invested billions of dollars around the world, particularly in China.

何年もの間中国は、手堅いながらも大した利回りも稼いでいない、外貨、特にアメリカ財務省債権に投資してきた。 だが現在、ドルは下がり、中国政府は高リターンの為に高リスクを取る事に前向きになる中、世界中で、特に中国で数十億ドルを投資してきた、シンガポールの国営投資機関テマセク・ホールディングスを、新しい機関は一部手本とした。

A similar investment agency in China would effectively create the world's largest hedge fund. Some analysts say that the China fund's investment of billions of dollars in the global financial markets could push global asset prices higher, affecting U.S. and European stocks, bonds and interest rates, as well as the value of energy and natural resources in Africa and the Middle East.

中国の同様の投資機関は、事実上世界最大のヘッジファンドを作り出すだろう。 一部のアナリスト達は、中国ファンド数十億ドルが国際金融市場で投資されれば、アフリカと中東のエネルギーおよび天然資源の価値と同じく、アメリカとヨーロッパの株式、債権、そして金利に影響し、国際資産価格を押し上げるだろう、と言っている。

Meanwhile, the Blackstone Group, which is based in New York, has been moving aggressively in recent months to find investments in China. Blackstone is trying to catch up to the Carlyle Group, which has a large operation in China.

一方、ブラックストーン・グループは、この数ヶ月間、中国で投資を発見すべく積極的に動き回っている。 ブラックストーンは中国で大規模なオペレーションを敷いている、カーライル・グループに追いつこうとしているのだ。

In January, Blackstone hired Anthony Leung, the former Hong Kong financial secretary, to run its business in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. And last month, Reuters reported that Blackstone was seeking to acquire a stake in the Guofeng Group, one of the largest Chinese makers of plastic products.

1月、ブラックストーンは中国、香港、台湾でのビジネス運営用に、Anthony Leung元香港財務長官を採用した。 そして先月、ブラックストーンは、中国最大のプラスティック・メーカーの一つであるGuofengグループの株式を取得しようとしている、とロイター通信が伝えた。

Under the terms of the Chinese government investment in Blackstone, it will buy nonvoting shares as part of the firm's initial public offering at 95.5 percent of the public-offering price. It has agreed to keep its stake for at least four years.

ブラックストーンへの中国政府の投資条件の下、同社の公募価格の95.5%で、IPOの一部として無議決権株を購入する。 この株式は少なくとも4年間保有する事で合意された。

China may reduce its stake after the public offering so that it holds fewer than 10 percent of Blackstone shares. The public offering is expected to value Blackstone at as much as $40 billion.

ブラックストーン株を10%以下に出来るので、公募の後株式を中国は減らすかもしれない。 公募はブラックストーンに最大で$400億の価格をつけると予想されている。

While the investment may presage further Chinese investment in private equity firms in the future, China has promised not to invest in a competing private equity firm for a year.

この投資は中国が将来更にプライベート・エクイティ会社に投資する事の前兆となるかもしれないが、その一方で、競合プライベート・エクイティ会社には1年間投資しない、と中国は約束している。

Blackstone - which has led multibillion-dollar buyouts of Equity Office Properties, Freescale Semiconductor and Michaels Stores - manages a $15.6 billion buyout fund. In its prospectus, it reported $2.3 billion in profit in 2006.

Equity Office Properties、Freescale Semiconductor、そしてMichaels Storesの、数十億ドル規模の乗っ取りを率いたブラックストーンは、$156億相当の乗っ取りファンドを管理している。 目論見書によれば、2006年の利益は$23億との事。



104 posted on 07/22/2007 4:13:29 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; JTN; Paperdoll
I was so busy elsewhere, I almost missed your ping!

I didn't notice Duncan on this story. Are they just failing to give him any credit? I'd think he'd be on this one like white on rice? (ooh, bad play on words)
105 posted on 07/22/2007 4:15:20 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: vbmoneyspender
OK

I disagree with him on a minor point.
I don't even agree with myself 100%

106 posted on 07/22/2007 4:22:33 PM PDT by JoinJuniorAchievement (“ I am a Veteran, I support Ron Paul.")
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To: JoinJuniorAchievement
I disagree with him on a minor point.

</chuckling>

107 posted on 07/22/2007 4:28:38 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: samtheman; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Nobody is calling George Bush all-holy. That’s some fantasy of yours, festering in some unexamined corner of your brain.

Perhaps you'd care to explain the following statement then:
Maybe if you were a Southern Baptist instead of just a "grandchild" of a few, you would be able to tell the difference between a Christian Patriot prayer for our President and a pagan prayer to a lesser deity.
NYT: Ron Paul for President... of the 'Wackos'? [Birchers, Israel-Haters, etc.], #449
108 posted on 07/22/2007 4:35:22 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: elhombrelibre
Again, American Free Press is where Ron Paul’s thoughts frequently appear. Why?

Have you found another reprint of RP's freely-reprintable articles there at AFP? Despite looking hard, no one has found anything except the one which opposes the Tobin tax to support the United Nations?

Please confirm these other articles that you claim, dates, titles, whether they were written for AFP or just more articles lifted from RP's website, possibly without AFP even notifying him. Though it's not like Ron Paul cares who reprints his articles. He's a free speech guy.
109 posted on 07/22/2007 4:40:20 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: t_skoz

An “irrationality of Middle Eastern politics” bump!


110 posted on 07/22/2007 4:41:48 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: SJackson
In general, not worth the discussion, his impact on anything other than earmarks for is district is zero.

Of course he forwards the earmarks to the committee as a constituent service. Then he votes against them.

In a recent story about a theater-renovation project, the project's primary tax parasite civic leader was congratulated on Ron Paul putting in the requested earmark. He replied, "I'd be happier if I thought he'd actually vote for it."

You see, his constituents know full well how he votes on these things. Yet, they keep re-electing him. By large margins.
111 posted on 07/22/2007 4:46:14 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: kidd
1. The discussion revolves around a LOAN, not a gift. I’m not entirely familiar with the finances, but I do believe that it mainly serves as a vehicle to make payments from the communists to an American firm. So all of the Freepers who are clever with the math, please correct your statements that this would be like a LOAN of $1M to 5000 Americans.

Surely you're aware that such "loans" are routinely declared forgiven three to five years later.

You must be a noob not to know this old congressional trick.
112 posted on 07/22/2007 4:50:46 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: italianquaker
All paulette threads deserve a buffoon alert

Oh, darn. Does that mean we've lost the massive and key voting bloc of Italian Quakers?
113 posted on 07/22/2007 4:53:15 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: TypeZoNegative; OrthodoxPresbyterian
How about we use that money to give to people who are interested in making something of themselves.

You mean back to US, the people they stole it from to begin with? I think Dr. Paul could be persuaded. Blackbird.

114 posted on 07/22/2007 5:03:53 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ah, everything old is new again.

Chinagatethemovie.com

115 posted on 07/22/2007 5:10:59 PM PDT by WannabeTurk (01/20/09)
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To: George W. Bush

nah


116 posted on 07/22/2007 5:20:06 PM PDT by italianquaker (When will pelosi ask congressman ellison to apologize for his 9-11 remarks?)
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To: George W. Bush

immigration, bush for, paul against,
north american union, the destruction of us sovernignty, bush for, paul against
federal reserve, a private banking institution, bush for, paul against
income tax, bush for, paul against.
giving us tax payer money to one of the best economies in the world, china, bush for, paul against

despite some of the other things paul may say, he really is against a lot of things most freepers are against.

as ltc said in apocalypse” one day this war is going to end..” than it will be too late to deal with these other issues.

someone delcared war on the american tax payer and forgot to tell us.


117 posted on 07/22/2007 5:49:17 PM PDT by rineaux (I Refuse to comment on this post until I know what Jesse Jackson Thinks.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Enough of kissing China’s butt.


118 posted on 07/22/2007 5:50:02 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: rineaux
as ltc said in apocalypse” one day this war is going to end..” than it will be too late to deal with these other issues.

Except for Dr. Paul's opposition to the Iraq invasion (and they still haven't produced a WMD stockpile or delivery platforms as they promised us they'd find in Iraq), Ron Paul holds the most conservative positions in the race. Some might argue that he's too conservative to get elected, well, that's their right to think that.

He has sounded the great Reagan themes and never wavered on them during his career.

And his great liberty message and his appeals to so many new voter blocs and young people is exactly what our party needs. We need to jettison the big-government Dim-lite agenda and get back to our winning conservative message. Or we will lose in 2008.

The fundraising and support Ron Paul has should be sending a clear message to the party: "Go back to your conservative roots. Stop being the party of big-government." You know, even Ron Paul is surprised at the enthusiasm, the young people being so excited.
119 posted on 07/22/2007 6:16:16 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: elhombrelibre

Answer your own question. Ask someone who might know. You are no doubt sleuth enough to find RP’s office phone or this mag’s contact info.

If the charge is serious (and it seems to be making you all a-quiver), then do some digging, sherlock.

But please also find the column where RP expresses any crpyto-neo-mystico ideas (I love the adjectives you use - I thought only college campus liberals called anyone crytpo- anything.) I suspect you, with your obsession with this idea, have a crytpo subliminal RP fetish. Just give in.


120 posted on 07/22/2007 6:22:19 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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