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Potter Mania: Should Christian Kids Read 'Harry Potter'?
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 7/20/2007 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 07/23/2007 7:04:00 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback

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To: Mr. Silverback

I find such concerns comical.

There is a huge difference between reading a Harry Potter book and being involved in the occult.


241 posted on 07/24/2007 1:12:41 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: js1138

Thanks, a post from someone who has no logical arguments left. You sound like a liberal who’s lost any pretext for decent discussion and resorts to personal attacks. Nice job.

Why don’t you just admit you love HP no matter what anyone says about it and if we don’t like it and you can’t counter the arguments against it then you just cover your ears and start namecalling us ‘muggles’?


242 posted on 07/24/2007 1:16:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Mr. Silverback

Female pastors=occult


243 posted on 07/24/2007 1:19:38 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Mr. Silverback

It’s Fiction. Blackbird.


244 posted on 07/24/2007 1:20:53 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: Tokra
Should their kids be reading novels about wizards and witches and magic?

I never made this statement!Maybe you're doing a form of projection, taking the statement of one person to ARGUE with another.

Nothing I have said can be construed into what you quoted, unless one CHOOSES to construe it as such.

My comments have been that a parent should use discernment with a childs reading material. Questioning something is not damning or judgemental, it is DISCERNMENT. Likewise discernment is not following blindly party lines, or idealogical dogmas. When a group of christians make statements that kids shouldn't read HP, for whatever reasons, It is a parents RESPONSIBILITY to inform themselves (primarily by reading said book) and to DISCERN whether THEIR CHILD should read, or not read, said book.

If a parent does this, and in their informed discernment choose not to allow their child to read it, that is the exercising of discernment.

Should someone, maybe you, make an uniformed opinion about the parents, contrary to their decision, thats being judgemental.

Never take the statement of one you differ with and apply it to someone else whose opinion you differ with. It makes you look the fool.

245 posted on 07/24/2007 1:27:24 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: GunRunner
So God told you not to read Harry Potter?

He told me the opposite. I got down to say my prayers last night but he said, "Can you wait a few minutes? I'm on the last chapter of the new Harry Potter book." ;^)

246 posted on 07/24/2007 1:28:47 PM PDT by Some hope remaining.
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To: Secret Agent Man

Point me to your condemnations of Narnia and Lord of the Rings.


247 posted on 07/24/2007 1:38:42 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Barnacle
With all do respect,but that is a load of BS,just like the claims that violent video games and movies turn kids into criminals.

Where are the parents to teach their kids that books, video games and such are only make believe and not okay in real life?

My oldest played every shoot them up game there is and never gone out and committed a crime.

He read the Harry Potter books and didn’t join the occult.

I really don’t understand where the big Fuzz over a children’s book is coming from.

BTW,he is 19 and is very active in church.

No ill effects from playing shoot them up video games or Harry Potter books.

248 posted on 07/24/2007 1:41:30 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proudly supporting our Troops and Allies!!!!)
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To: mountn man

Sorry to interrupt your rant - but it was simple mistake of clicking the wrong reply button. I meant the reply for someone else.


249 posted on 07/24/2007 1:44:10 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: AppyPappy
I have never read the books, and I'm not sure I have any real inclination to. Not because I'm dogmatically opposed to them, but simply because I have no draw to read them. 1-My recreational reading leans mostly to Space Sci-Fi, like Star Wars and Star Trek. 2-I have no kids that require me to read the questioned material, before allowing them to read it.

I have seen some of 2 movies, but never beginning to end. Not because I'm opposed to them, simply because either I came in late, or had other things that prevented my finishing them. What I have seen in the movies, seems to me pretty entertaining.

But if I were a parent, the responsibility of raising a child with discernment "MIGHT" change my benign attitude towards the series. Unless I'm in that position, I cannot know for sure.

I have a buddy who homeschools a fairly large brood. I know what his goals are for raising his family, he limits his families exposure to books and movies to things either strictly christian or overtly moral or neutral. I have given books, videos and games as gifts, and always gear my choices toward very, very wholesome items. Because of the questions these books and movies raise, I would never give them to his family. Simply for my respect for him and his choices.

250 posted on 07/24/2007 1:49:51 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: conejo99
The existence of a soul is quite explicit in these books.Heaven is very heavily hinted at (the Kings Cross station scene). God gets a capital ‘G’. The books a deist, but not Christian, Never said they were Christian, however, they do celebrate Christmas.
251 posted on 07/24/2007 3:17:10 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Tenniel2
Ok. But I was just making the statement that I didn't know that Lewis was Christian, or that his works had Christian messages. Do you think that kids or people would get that?
252 posted on 07/24/2007 3:19:44 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: NotSoFreeStater

I can’t think of a single reason in the world why a Christian kid ought not read a Harry Potter book. I suppose there are some Christians who think they should only read Christian oriented material, and that’s there right. But there’s nothing unChristian about the Potter books.


253 posted on 07/24/2007 3:26:09 PM PDT by wolfinator
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To: Secret Agent Man
If the child gets the messages that are in the Potter books, then I have no problem. They don't teach witchcraft. The teach friendship, loyalty, courage, thinking for yourself, perseverance, sacrifice and that good must triumph over evil. Your stuck on magic, rather than the message. The books are very clear that you must have a "magical" family tree to be a witch or wizard. But in the end, it is all pretend. I played "Jeannie" and "Samantha" as a kid, went to church, and turned out pretty well according to folks I know.
254 posted on 07/24/2007 3:28:58 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Uh, you might want to review my position on the Potter books. I’m with you. It is fantasy. I support the Harry Potter books and movies.


255 posted on 07/24/2007 3:31:03 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: uglybiker
So much of what makes America great began with children contemplating the impossible. They didn't stop until the impossible...became the possible. Yep! Because the kids that were allowed to envision and create, we have the computer and internet we now converse on. In a few short generations ago, these would have been "devices of the devil".
256 posted on 07/24/2007 3:34:25 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: js1138

I’ll point you back to the topic we’ve been discussing that you are conveniently and blatantly ducking.


257 posted on 07/24/2007 5:12:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: oneamericanvoice

You are correct, they do not teach the mechanics of witchcraft. What they do do for some kids is whet their appetite to learn the mechanics of spells and potions and necromancy and get involved in witchcraft.


258 posted on 07/24/2007 5:16:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man
What they do do for some kids is whet their appetite to learn the mechanics of spells and potions and necromancy and get involved in witchcraft.

That's really scary, considering the effectiveness of spells and witchcraft.

259 posted on 07/24/2007 5:18:31 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138

Your statement shows just what a high regard you have towards God’s warnings not to get involved with this kind of stuff. The fact is that in some cases these kids tap into demonic forces because that is the force behind the occult.

Why do you think real witches cast actual spells within certain circles and other drawn figures on the floor? It is for their own protection. Sometimes that protection doesn’t help them. I have seen interviews with real witches who have talked about becoming possessed by demons even with other witches around as well as other protections. Some have even called it quits after such an episode happens to them.


260 posted on 07/24/2007 5:27:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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