One Million-Years-Old (Human) Footprints Found At Margalla Hills (Pakistan)

Dawn ^ | 7-27-2007 | Sher Baz Khan

[blam]

"Blam, Coyote alleges you might be offended that I pinged your thread. Are you?"

I would prefer you didn't. Haven't you noticed that I abandon my threads when religion enters the conversation. My interest is archaeology/anthropology, not religion. I don't crash into or hijack religious threads...why do you think it is okay to call 'the gang' over to disrupt my threads. It's very impolite.

[Ben Chad]

But ID is science. I read it on the internet. ;-)

[Calvin Locke]

Perhaps the foot prints are from a yeti? Or rock ape?

[Leroy S. Mort]

archaeologists have found two over one million years old human footprints preserved on a sandstone at the Margalla Hills.

I'm not believing this unless they find the booties...

[Turret Gunner A20]

re: #16 Well, it is either Creation OR Evolution. Can’t be BOTH.

Depends on your definitions of 'Creation' and 'Evolution".

[RightWhale]

I do not believe in evolution or Big Bang

Nobody else does either. Both are useful hypotheses in science.

[David]

"The ‘written’ word may well be sincere, but how accurate? We can accept the premise, but not necessarily the math - IMHO"

One of the most significant things that has happened in my development as a Christian is a monthly series of articles called "It's About Time" which was published in the late 70's and early 80's by The Chronology History Research Institute.

Faulstich, founder of the entity, was a computer financial manager for a NYSE company who retired and devoted the rest of his life to construction of Chronological relationships described in the bible.

His date for Adam, March of 4000 BC is four years later than the earlier work done by Usher.

Study of Faulstich's work leaves you with the strong belief that the Bible sets out a complete basis for reconstruction of the timeline. It puts into clear focus, Chronologically controversial scripture such as Daniel Chapter 5. His work on the Chronology of the Kings is now taught in Jerusalem.

Although I differ strongly with his Theology, if you were going to read only one Bible Study text, this is the one you should read.

http://www.webspawner.com/users/BibleChron/

The important material is under C, D, and F.

[sodpoodle]

If God stopped by today and spoke to Bill Gates - I am quite sure that the knowledge and sciences we have developed over the past 5,000 years would permit a more accurate application of God’s word to his original creation of the Universe. IMHO

[editor-surveyor]

"Well, it is either Creation OR Evolution. Can’t be BOTH. And I do not believe in evolution or Big Bang. To believe that you must believe that a hurricane or tornado goes through a junk yard and a 747 jet is formed by the tornado."

Most of us here are in full agreement with you, but as you can see, you've woken up the Troglodites, and caused them to declare their own ignorance.

[Creationist]

Your close it is 6000 by the Word of God the Bible.

[Creationist]

Approximately 4000 BC.

[Mr. Mojo]

I think the earth was created in 1963, approximately 3 weeks after JFK was shot. All evidence to the contrary is the Devil’s work.

[Creationist]

There are countless examples of physical evidence to prove that to not be the case.

Physical evidence is not a proof of either millions of years or thousands of years as it must be interpreted. There is not one piece of evidence out there with a date stamp upon it.

So those who interpret it will always start out with a presupposition, evolutionist with billions of years creationist thousands of years.

Everything in evolutionary science is base upon assumptions,dating methods, everyone of them assumes uniformity. Evolution is a faith based science, as it origins of man by science, no one recorded it, no one can reproduce it. It is based upon ideals of man who wish to think they are in charge of the destiny of man.

Those who believe in thousands of years use the Bible not as a science book but as a historical document true in every aspect when interpreting the physical evidence of this world.

When doing so it is creation and thousands of years that fits the mold, not having to be corrected every time a new discovery is made.

II Peter

4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

[Creationist]

I take my belief in God seriously, I believe the Bible to be the word of God given to man to write down for us to read over and over again to use for our lives work to live by.

I believe that evolutionary science is a false science and is a faith based science, therefore it should be kept in the church of monkey worship and not be a tax funded religion.

As to your 1963 start date, doesn't work for me I was born in 1964 and my parents were bone in the 40's.
So I have historical living proof that your date is off by a wee bit.

[sodpoodle]

Oh dear - so this is how CREVO battles begin?

Great Home Page Coyote - I found this very enlightening.
Thanks;)

Radiometric Dating
A Christian Perspective
Dr. Roger C. Wiens
Division of Geological & Planetary Sciences
California Institute of Technology

[Coyoteman]

I found this very enlightening. Thanks ;)

Radiometric Dating...

If you have any questions on radiocarbon dating, I do a lot of it and would be happy to share what I have learned.

[Mr. Mojo]

my parents were bone in the 40's.

Let's keep the personal stuff out of this, shall we? ;)

The Devil has deluded you into thinking they were born in the 40s, just as he's deluded the vast majority of mankind that any historical events happened prior to late Dec. of 1963. How do I know this? The Holy Spirit paid me a visit in the form of Bishop Ussher.

[Creationist]

Evolution is faith based as is creation.

Science does not have any proof of origins or evolution.

Origins can not be reproduced and no one was there to observe them.

Evolution has never been witnessed, (that is macro evolution changing from one species to another, micro evolution which is a bad term for adaption or variation is not evolution.) there is not one intermediate species in the world, there is not one intermediate species in the fossil record.

With billions of years there would be countless intermediate fossils like the licken or chizard.

And Coyotemans Radiometric dating is a science of unprovable tests. Where is a test specimen that one can calibrate these test by.

Realize this specimen must have a know date stamped on it our a documentation by a person who was there at the formation of the specimen.

All the dating methods are flawed from the beginning of the test, first it is assumed that the subject was pure from the start, then it is assumed that all daughter elements are the product of decay (no leaching in or out), and also the dating methods can only deal with the here and now and have to assume that not large scale events of the past could effect the out come to the to sample.

It is known that the magnetic field is decaying, evolutionist will tell you it cycles weaker, stronger, weaker, which there is no proof for, they will tell you the magnetic lines in the earth are there proof. But that is not a proof but an observation of an event with a presupposition interpretation.

If this be the case then radioactive decay must follow this same process.

I know the both are not, as I know the 1st and 2nd laws of thermo dynamics only apply to those who believe in creation, evolution alway seems to be able to over come these obstacles

[Creationist]

There is a place in Korea for you