[Dianna]

I’m seeing the kind of victimology thinking here I’d expect from libs. Poor women, too helpless and dumb at 17 to know not to play around with boys. Girls are also responsible for their actions, too.

Dad is obviously a nutcase.

However, we do not have any good solutions for deliberately defiant older teens in this country.

[Burkean]

I agree that dad here sounds like a nut—the incident reeks of sexual jealousy. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if sexual abuse claims don’t come out in the trial.

But with no feeling or movement below the waist Mr. Guzman won’t be having the urge to hide in any more ladies’ closets.

[ChildOfThe60s]

However, we do not have any good solutions for deliberately defiant older teens in this country.

You are so right on that. I have seen plenty of people with out of control teens and no recourse. For example, in some places the parents can be put in the pokey if their 15 yo refuses to go to school. You can't make a 15 yo do something they refuse to do. And you can't kick them out [legally].

Teenage children do what we tell them to do primarily because we get enough respect from them to do so. A little leverage comes from the carrot and stick. But all in all, they do it because they have enough respect for us that they are willing to.