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To: Carry_Okie

I have been working with homeless for 20 years. He is a perfect example of what happens when a government program is operated trying to “help” these guys/gals.

They never acknowledge that there is a such thing as spiritual problems leading a person to live this way. Thus at the heart of all their help is the idea that it is a matter of “human potential” and helping the guys find the “better angels of their nature” in order to recover.

This is a waste of time. The best way to help this guy is to insist that he cannot live like this, and that if he cannot stay there and cannot help self he needs help from others who will help him.

The others, of course, are not the government entities that have led us to such a massive amount of people on the streets. They only want to make his plight better, and never want to be “Judgmental” even about the lifestyle he/she has chosen. (Yes i said chosen.)

I challenge them to show me where i am wrong here. I have been doing this work for years and years. The only people that i have seen helped are those that are taught that this is not the way that God would have them live. They have to be taught that it is not a godly thing to be homeless. It is funny how the social network run by our government hates any reference to God or spiritual things, except to somehow view the homeless “like Jesus” when they are on the streets in dire poverty.

The approach of believing in the “goodness and godliness of man” is foolish at best, and extremely unproductive. You might “see” the face of Jesus in the poor, needy, homeless; but, you do not leave them in that position. You are called to bring them the reality of the Word of God, that all have sinned and come short of God’s glory, and that the redeemer (Jesus) can and will change the heart, which is the root of all these social ills.

The answer is not further government socialism and communism. These are definite spiritual problems that are a result of the fall. Only reversing the effects of the fall will make any difference.


8 posted on 08/07/2007 8:12:33 AM PDT by TrailofTears (."We mock loyalty and are shocked at finding traitors in our midst." CS Lewis)
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To: TrailofTears
Excellent commentary !!!!!!
10 posted on 08/07/2007 8:22:28 AM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: TrailofTears
I have been working with homeless for 20 years.

I was once homeless for well over a year.

Thus at the heart of all their help is the idea that it is a matter of “human potential” and helping the guys find the “better angels of their nature” in order to recover.

The root of which lies in the idea that being created in G-d's image translates to a core of divinity.

This is a waste of time.

No one can be helped unless they ask for it. They won't ask as long as they can interpret their existence as tolerable.

The only people that i have seen helped are those that are taught that this is not the way that God would have them live.

I climbed out of that hole long before I figured that out.

It is funny how the social network run by our government hates any reference to God or spiritual things, except to somehow view the homeless “like Jesus” when they are on the streets in dire poverty.

The bureaucratic police state depends upon these victims to justify an income. By contrast, those who dispense charity expect a change in behavior before they will continue to offer assistance. The distinction is one of structural motivation. The laws governing the former preclude successful intervention which absolutely depends upon a moral and spiritual code that government cannot legally presume to impart. That's why the welfare state cannot ever work.

11 posted on 08/07/2007 8:47:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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