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To: LightedCandle; All
There is a season for harsh laws too.

What brings on such a season? Degeneracy. The proclivity of Arabians for vices -- sex, drink, gambling -- brought on Mohammed. He sought to reign those vices in. And look with what we are left! Thousands of years later, even.

The spouse and child abuse, the destitution of England, brought on by gin, brought on the period of harsh Gin Laws in the eighteenth century.

In our own country the widespread production, read availability, and cheap prices of spirits and beer as we became urbanized around the turn of the Century -- and teh consequent spouse and child abuse, the dereliction of the duties of adulthood due to alcoholic stupors and sickness brought on ever increasing harsh laws, eventually the Prohibition.

The later two cases -- the Gin laws, the Prohibition --each was a circuit breaker to the destructive maelstrom unleashed by new production methods.

Porn has such a new method. We are flooded with cheap porn and there are social consequences.

These are undeniable, yet the horde of libertarian-zealots denies any problem, so it would seem.

Will they have us all left to chance against a coming Mohammed? Or to suffer a Prohibition?

For something must be done. If men, by themselves are unable to do it, then society must act by that collective moral force we implement as law.

And that law will be harsher for all the scoffing that nothing is wrong! Or that the pornographic equivalent of constant drunkenness is just a grand FREEDOM.

Folly always finds fools to join its march.

76 posted on 08/15/2007 5:17:59 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
These are undeniable, yet the horde of libertarian-zealots denies any problem, so it would seem.

I don't know of many libertarians (or even Libertarians) who would deny that there are social consequences to pornography. I suspect that most feel as I do on the subject.

Those who engage in obsessive viewing of pornography, and those who marry porn addicts are suffering the consequences of their own choices. While it would be nice to wave a magic wand and save people from the consequences of their bad decisions, some problems are probably insoluble without creating worse issues and side effects. People are often self-destructive, and we can't cocoon everyone indefinitely from actions that have consequences. If it's not porn, it could be gambling, drugs, alcohol, risky stock market investments, sub-prime variable rate mortgages, risky sex, fast driving, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, free solo climbing, choosing the wrong life partner, gaming addiction, and/or under-insuring. The people who seem to me to be most vulnerable to porn addiction are those with poor impulse control, and addictive personalities, and I for one would rather they look be able at their filth on the Internet than resort to hiding wireless cameras in ladies rest rooms, or over motel beds.

I do support formation of a .xxx top level domain in the hopes that porn will self-segregate their and be easier to filter. However, the US Gov't is against it. I also support the idea of harsh penalties against malware and trojan software developers who infect people's systems with porno-popups.

90 posted on 08/15/2007 6:23:45 PM PDT by amchugh (large and largely disgruntled)
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