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Forced Education in Homosexuality and Evolution Leads to Exodus of Mennonites from Quebec
LifeSite ^ | 8/17/07 | John-Henry Westen and Elizabeth O'Brien

Posted on 08/17/2007 12:15:16 PM PDT by ZGuy

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To: awakened

Yes. I was taught about homosexuality in health class, but I lived in a communist school district.


21 posted on 08/17/2007 12:56:54 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: taxcontrol
as long as, at a minimum, it is balanced by representation of the PROBLEMS with evolution theory.

No problem. Just teach about the problems with the alternatives of evolution theory. These things work both ways you know.

22 posted on 08/17/2007 12:57:04 PM PDT by narby
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To: camerakid400
No scientfic basis, sure. I agree with you there. Creationism should be kept out of science class. And the logical place for it is in religion/history. No disagreement at all!

My own personal opinion - and since it's my own, it doesn't belong in the school at all (lol) - is that I believe in evolution, but that there was a little help along the line. For instance, some of the things that made man so successful and evolved were opposable thumbs, color vison, etc. Sure, they helped us evolve, but how did we get them to start with? And how have we gotten to where we are after only 10's of thousands of generation, when other species are more-or-less the same after 10's of millions of generations?

These are the things that I ponder when I can't sleep at night.

23 posted on 08/17/2007 1:01:47 PM PDT by wbill
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To: vetsvette
Leftists don’t ever seem to tumble to the fact that, if you have to force it on the people, there’s probably something wrong with it.

You don't understand Leftists very well, then -

In their mindset, they HAVE to force it on people, because they, the leftists, KNOW BETTER, and others won't choose their better way voluntarily.

24 posted on 08/17/2007 1:02:35 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ZGuy

A lot more of this is coming. I will not let the government schools teach my children immorality. Period.


25 posted on 08/17/2007 1:05:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off a leftist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: awakened
I don't remember homosexuality being covered in my Health Class and I turned out OK. Of course, the pinheaded "educator" would disagree....

My uncle grew up in the backwoods of Maine. During WWII, he joined the navy and was based at Mare Island (in San Francisco). He said that the more "streetwise" guys in the barracks had to explain to him what a homosexual was.

My point is, that homosexuality wasn't "taught" in schools for generations, and largely, people back then turned out OK, I think. Like I said before, there are plenty of libs that would disagree with me.

26 posted on 08/17/2007 1:05:45 PM PDT by wbill
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To: ZGuy

A very frightening line in the article:

“In 2002, social workers in Aylmer removed seven children from a Mennonite family because the family used spanking as a form of discipline.”


27 posted on 08/17/2007 1:07:31 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: N3WBI3

Coming soon -

Children removed from homeschooling families because they refuse to teach homosexuality and “modern morals” of tolerance, ie, “they’re teaching HATE”.


28 posted on 08/17/2007 1:09:42 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: camerakid400
...there is no scientific basis for creationism to be taught at all in science class.

There is also no basis for evolution to be taught either - in fact origins are outside of the classical scientific method. Only operational science (i.e. observable - repeatable - verifiable) is truly science most everything else that calls itself science is secular religion looking for legitimacy and legal protection - not to mention government grants.

29 posted on 08/17/2007 1:12:08 PM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: ZGuy

Funny even the governments now associate the two subjects...


30 posted on 08/17/2007 1:16:46 PM PDT by jeddavis
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To: camerakid400
"Homosexuality in health class is a much different story."

Unless it's to educate the young 'uns about the various health problems - physical, mental, and moral - associated with it.

31 posted on 08/17/2007 1:17:25 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: wbill
"my opinion only, I don't see why it couldn't be both, rather than one or the other"

I like to think of it as creation through evolution. What - is God (Most Holy Sun Absolute Uni-Being Common Father) not intelligent enough to conceive the processes and functions whereby that can take place? Everything that lives grows - people don't spring out fully formed - why should we believe the world sprang out fully formed?

I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this. At least, I hope not...

32 posted on 08/17/2007 1:29:55 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: ZGuy

So, are transexuals used as an example of both subjects?


33 posted on 08/17/2007 1:31:01 PM PDT by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: camerakid400
The Sex Ed that I got dealt with the dangers of STD’s and how to avoid them. Now they are teaching hedonistic sex that would embarrass the Romans.
34 posted on 08/17/2007 1:35:57 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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35 posted on 08/17/2007 1:38:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: camerakid400
"there is no scientific basis for creationism to be taught at all in science class"

If you think of science as the study of particles and creationism as the study of waveforms, and the study of the two together (science and creationism) as the study of the two together (particles and waveforms), it may be possible.

The one can be thought of as working from the individual (or the particulate) up to the whole whereas the other works (influences) from the whole down to the individual (or the particulate) - both occurring simultaneously while mutually supporting one another, the one necessary for the other.

It can be thought of as the study of the world and reality from both directions - the small to the large and the large to the small, if you will.

Also, the one can be thought of as the study of fact while the other as the study of value.

36 posted on 08/17/2007 1:41:28 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: narby

See, that is the problem. Current politically correct thought on evolution does not allow for the presentation of any other theories.


37 posted on 08/17/2007 1:51:26 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: DaveyB

Well evolution itself is pretty much at the level of gravity-it’s scientific understanding of its existance is universally accepted (Michael Behe is one of the only scientists who disagreed, but in his new book, he pretty much gave up.) The fact that we still have new parts of evolutionary process being discovered (just a couple days ago there was something new) does not discredit the basic ideas of evolution taught to children in science that have yet to be disproven for almost 100 years.

The origin of WHY evolution occurs and HOW WE came into existance can be debated in phylosophy class or religion class.

There is basis for teaching the process of evolution, there is no basis for teaching why evolution occurs in a science class. We still don’t know why gravity occurs (or have yet to find the “graviton”-the gravity particle). Gravity is taught in science class because we accept that it exists.

The communist liberals have tried to use evolution among other things as a way to take away religion out of public life, and that is certainly unacceptable.


38 posted on 08/17/2007 1:52:09 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: the anti-liberal

“What - is God (Most Holy Sun Absolute Uni-Being Common Father) not intelligent enough to conceive the processes and functions whereby that can take place? Everything that lives grows - people don’t spring out fully formed - why should we believe the world sprang out fully formed?”

Because the Bible says He created it in six days. Read Genesis 1. Not compatible with evolutionary theory.


39 posted on 08/17/2007 2:03:25 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: ZGuy

Oh Canada, a kinder, gentler, Communist Country...

BTW, I’m from Canada... but the Maple flavor Kool-Aid give me heart burn and flatulence...


40 posted on 08/17/2007 2:06:04 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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