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Inventor May Have Breakthrough in Killing Cancer Cells
WKYC.com ^ | August 20, 2007 | Michael O'Mara

Posted on 08/20/2007 8:23:48 PM PDT by Paved Paradise

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To: Blueflag
So, once these nanoparticles are in the body, how if ever are they excreted? Where do they go, even if it’s AFTER they help kill the cancer cells?

Assuming they "tag" a cancer cell, (I gather) the cell would be essentially cooked to death by the RF, and then swept out of the body with other dead cells. So hopefully the nanos would still be attached somewhere to the former cell & excreted along with dead cells.

I'm basically just guessing here though.

21 posted on 08/20/2007 9:02:20 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Paved Paradise

I will pray for both this guy and for your mom. May she get good news.


22 posted on 08/20/2007 9:03:29 PM PDT by SamiGirl
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To: Blueflag
I know that Dr. Curley saved my aunt's life 20 years ago when colon cancer had metastasized to her liver. He used a special chemopump in the liver to shrink and eliminate that cancer.

I've been a patient there for 3 years for Sarcoma in the thigh. This is one of the two finest cancer research facilities in the world--along with Sloan-Kettering in NYC. And by far the most patient-oriented, uplifting hospital I've ever seen.

The principles of radiation therapy and chemo are balanced approaches that find the weakness of cancer cells (their need to constantly grow and multiply) and hurts those cells worse than the normal cells around them. It is true that all cells suffer in this, but the normal cells can survive while high numbers of cancer cells die.

The concept of putting nanoparticles that are attracted to the higher blood flow and faster cell division in cancer cells does not sound all that far-fetched. If a radio-pulse then explodes these nano-particles in the focused path to the tumor, then the peripheral damage could be quite small.

Let's all pray that this treatment gets approval quickly if it works. To have such a major research player as MD Anderson behind you is a powerful indicator that this stuff is for real.

23 posted on 08/20/2007 9:03:30 PM PDT by DJtex
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To: Paved Paradise

In the long run, you cannot suppress innovation. If this man did indeed have a complete cure for all types of cancer, it’s value would exceed the value of all current remedies. Even if he was in it only for the money, no company producing today’s cancer drugs would have even close to the amount of money needed to buy him off. VC’s would be counting their previous cancer cure investments as sunk costs and pursuing the development of his ideas. The second to last paragraph raised my suspicions also.


24 posted on 08/20/2007 9:05:05 PM PDT by posterchild (If you don't look ahead nobody will, there's no time to kill - Clint Black)
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To: Paved Paradise
I keep up on this stuff since my mom got cancer and we’ll find out tomorrow if it’s spread to another area of the body.

I hope you will find tomorrow that the cancer has not spread.

I lost my father to cancer this year. He would still be with us if his surgery had gone well. We've lost many family members to cancer, too. But it is beatable with the right doctors. My father had the wrong doctors.

I know nothing of this man and his invention. But, in desperation, we searched and came across so many promising treatments that we realized later were scams. But there was one treatment that I believe might've helped - intravenous Vitamin C. Local doctors as well as a medical center associated with a well-respected university hospital is now trying IVC, so it is sounding more and more credibile as a treatment. Not much money to be made from Vit C, though, which explains the lack of interest in it.

25 posted on 08/20/2007 9:05:36 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: SamiGirl

You’re a doll. Thanks so much.

BTW, it would be just like God to have the person coming up with the cure to be just some regular “joe doe” from a little town and in PA yet. Gotta joke a little bit since they’re our great neighbor next door.

Thanks again!


26 posted on 08/20/2007 9:06:40 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Tired of Taxes

Thanks. I hold out great hope always. I am sorry about your loss.


27 posted on 08/20/2007 9:08:55 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Dr. Frank fan

You may be an MD so this info could be old hat for you, but for others....here’s is a reference to the practice of radiopharmacology. The practice of “tagging” has been around a long time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiopharmacology


28 posted on 08/20/2007 9:10:20 PM PDT by Texaspeptoman (even cannibals get fed up on people sometimes)
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To: Salvey

Big pharmaceuticals wouldn’t want to stop the research, just control how fast and in what directions it goes.


29 posted on 08/20/2007 9:10:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Paved Paradise
You have NO idea what you are talking about. There ARE venture capitalists out there who would definitely want this stuff squelched.

I think there's a middle ground here.

You have a point, I can see VC's or Big Pharm (or Big Radiation or Big Chemo or whoever) wanting to buy it out if it's promising research. But not to "squelch" it, to profit from it!

Once they bought it, why wouldn't they go ahead and develop it (if it really works)? they'd be the only firm doing it instead of just one among N firms doing radiation equipment (or whatever).

Or if it doesn't really have a chance of working, why would they fear it in the first place? let it lie in the dustbin of history along with cold fusion.

That's what smells sort of paranoid about the concern. It's like saying that companies both want profits and don't want them: they want profits so much they'd buy him out to squelch his super-advanced super-promising technique so they could keep profiting less off their outdated technique.

Huh??!

30 posted on 08/20/2007 9:11:14 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Salvey

I don’t think that’s lunacy. Lots of money in cancer. Find a cure and a LOT of people are going to be out a LOT of MONEY, especially drug companies.


31 posted on 08/20/2007 9:11:39 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Paved Paradise; chadsworth; ladyinred

Sounds like it could happen very soon.

Praying that this works as I pray for ladyinred.

Thanks, Paved Paradise.


32 posted on 08/20/2007 9:13:45 PM PDT by JustAmy (I wear red every Friday, but I support our Military everyday!!)
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To: DJtex
The concept of putting nanoparticles that are attracted to the higher blood flow and faster cell division in cancer cells does not sound all that far-fetched. If a radio-pulse then explodes these nano-particles in the focused path to the tumor, then the peripheral damage could be quite small.

You actually sound like you know more about the proposed technique than the article describes... are you looking at a better article? If so, pass along the link, I'd like to read it :)

I'm concerned about the "higher blood flow" statement you cite as being the mechanism for the nanos to tag cancer cells... as I recall there are some cancerous situations in which the cancer cells actually get *less* blood flow, as the capillaries become constricted. Does this mean the nanos would sort of miss those cancer cells or not reach them as effectively? and thus the RF treatment would fail on such formations?

This kind of detail is why I need a better article to read :)

33 posted on 08/20/2007 9:16:31 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Texaspeptoman
I'm not an MD but yes I'm familiar with tagging with markers (to image), basically for cells that fall into a category such as: getting too much oxygen, too little, lots of metabolism, whatever. That's why I used the term, cuz tagging is what it reminded me of...

But I'm just not familiar with the notion that you can make a thing that could "tag" the category "all cancer cells". :-)

That's probably not really what is contemplated or proposed, of course. It's just that the article is written for a pop audience and doesn't go into detail there... a detail that's very interesting...

34 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:23 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Paved Paradise

==> “If we can come up with ways of delivering these particles to the cancer cells, but not to normal cells,” Curley said, “this treatment will work. There’s not a doubt in my mind. Any kind of cancer, anywhere in the body!” <==

And if I had some bread, we would have everything necessary for a baloney sandwich.

Attaching a marker to cancer cells - ONLY cancer cells - is the holy grail of cancer research. The real researchers are trying to find external surface molecules unique to cancer cells and create antibodies that will attach to them, thus marking them for destruction and removal by existing natural processes in the body.

But cancer cells are defective in their reproductive machinery, so their character changes rapidly through generations, and the markers change as well. NOTHING in this article describes how these particles will associate with a majority of cancer cells while avoiding all normal cells in the body. This article is an act of cruelty.


35 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:43 PM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

You might be able to use it on chloresterol as well.


36 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:57 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

You might be able to use it on chloresterol as well.


37 posted on 08/20/2007 9:23:31 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: DJtex
The concept of putting nanoparticles that are attracted to the higher blood flow and faster cell division in cancer cells does not sound all that far-fetched. If a radio-pulse then explodes these nano-particles in the focused path to the tumor, then the peripheral damage could be quite small.

Unless the lesions are in some place like the heart valves or the brain. I wonder if anyone is pursuing using a meson gun on cancer cells?

38 posted on 08/20/2007 9:24:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (“Jesus Saves. Moses Delivers. Cthulu Reposesses...”)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Stuttering Trigger-Finger.


39 posted on 08/20/2007 9:24:23 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Paved Paradise

No I wasn’t doubting him, but it seems a bit strange that the writer didn’t take the opportunity to explain WHY everyone thinks this procedure holds so much promise.


40 posted on 08/20/2007 9:25:17 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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