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To: giobruno

Oh, yes, I’ve heard that excuse by the Turkish government many times before. “The” Armenians staged a “full-scale uprising,” according to you, who bought the Turkish government’s spin.

My grandmother, who was a young child, her grandmother, who was an old lady, and other relatives, many children, many old, all civilians — all in the death march.

Oh, sure, they were a real threat.

Hitler saw the Jews as a “threat” too. I guess that must mean the Jews were at least partly responsible for the Holocaust too, according to your logic? After all, some of them staged riots too.


18 posted on 08/22/2007 6:31:42 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: tabsternager
Hitler saw the Jews as a “threat” too. I guess that must mean the Jews were at least partly responsible for the Holocaust too, according to your logic?

Entirely responsible, it was just retribution for their having started WWI and WWII, among other things, per Hitler's logic.

35 posted on 08/22/2007 7:09:42 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: tabsternager

Actually, I am referring to particularly sound historical work by Bernard Lewis and Gunter Lewy among others, not the Turkish government.

The historical evidence is still the historical evidence. No one is disputing the deaths of thousands of Armenians, what is in dispute is the similarity to the Holocaust, and the events put into perspective within the circumstances of the period.

Let me put it another way, it’s not an exact analogy, but it helps. Let’s say during WW2, the Germans and Japanese were winning, and it looked like the US would lose after a very long and costly and bloody war. And let’s say that several SW states at the time had very large Mexican American populations, populations that had been restive in the past, and that just when things looked really bad (scarcity, death, etc), these states held a rebellion demanding independence from the US. How do you think the rest of the US populace would view such an uprising? Mass deportation would certainly follow. Frankly, I think the historical record shows the Turkish government showed considerable restraint, if may local officials did not.


51 posted on 08/22/2007 8:23:24 AM PDT by giobruno
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