Don't be so sensitive about someone posting pics or showing crime statistics, just because you happen to be moving to the same region.
I post stats comparing other cities to LA because it's an eyeopener, and many people can't believe it. Like showing someone there is more crime in Milwaukee Wisconsin than there is in Los Angeles. It wakes people up to what's happening right in their own back yard. Don't like it? Too bad.
I don't live in Denver or LA. However, those that think they can just somehow magically jump in their truck, or an airplane, and escape this by driving a state or two away are sadly mistaken. At one time, years ago one could do that. Not any more.
It's everywhere my friend. Don't be naive in thinking you can somehow escape this...You can't. Those days are over, unless you plan on moving to the middle of nowhere, where it's void of jobs, malls, people, towns, etc.
Oh, and I noted you apologized above for getting off subject here...Don't worry about it. It's a thread about a house in Texas full of illegally aliens. After about 50 or so posts, there isn't much to talk about when you figure there are probably thousands of homes just like this scattered all over the country. Thanks to our government, this has become typical. So then, I have to ask, what is your plan for yourself? Are you moving out? If so, where to?
And stop trying to make this something personal, or about me. It's isn't about me friend. As I said above, there is no escaping this any longer unless the middle of nowhere appeals to you.
Best of luck to you.
It's everywhere my friend. Don't be naive in thinking you can somehow escape this...You can't.
I understand that crime is everywhere, to varying extents. That, my friend, is a no-brainer. However: I'm sorry, but I think that you might be the one who is a little naive in thinking that it's somehow nearly the same everywhere, and that there is absolutely no escape from it no matter where you go, unless you move to the middle of nowhere. That is just simply false. There are degrees to these things.
Denver may have a bad per-capita crime rate, but every time I've visited it, I have enjoyed my stay and have not felt as unsafe as I do in downtown L.A. It is cleaner, I don't see any gangster-looking people walking around (mostly just professionals and casual visitors like me), I noticed no trash on the ground, and virtually no graffiti anywhere. Perhaps I was only on the "good" side, but the fact is that I enjoyed my visits there. And Parker, Littleton, Castle Rock, Golden, Englewood, Arvata and Broomfield are NOT Denver. (Just look at their crime stats, since that's your thing.)
It is NOT everywhere. You do NOT have live in the absolute boonies to be in a better environment than downtown LA or downtown Denver. You CAN just "magically" jump in a truck or airplane and escape high crime, just by -- get this -- going to someplace with
lower crime. What a concept!
Regarding your statement --
I post stats comparing other cities to LA because it's an eyeopener, and many people can't believe it. Like showing someone there is more crime in Milwaukee Wisconsin than there is in Los Angeles. Like showing someone there is more crime in Milwaukee Wisconsin than there is in Los Angeles. -- You're just showing a single crime per capita statistic, which hardly tells the entire story of a place. Mexico has a
much, much lower crime per capita statistic than does the United States. So let's all go live there, why don't we? Oh, wait...
I am not ignoring these negatives. But the thing that bothered me about your posts -- yes, on a personal level, so sue me -- was that they were:
(1) posted directly to me, not just as "someone that just happened to randomly post a pic showing crime statistics for the same region that I just happen to be moving to. No, you were responding directly to my posts, of course.
(2) overwhelmingly and obsessively negative. There is no light here, or anywhere; you can't escape it no matter what you do; we're all doomed.
(3) repetitive in nature. I post something, you respond with a picture of 75,000 illegals marching and a stat that supposedly shows -- despite its lack of a Y-axis scale for reference -- that Denver crime is a lot worse than LA's. I post a detailed response back, and you respond with...another picture of illegals marching and a repetition of the claim that Denver crime is a lot worse than LA's. It's like you didn't really absorb, or you simply choose to discount, everything that I have posted in response. You're just stuck in one narrow record groove that's skipping, and that's it.
So excuse me for getting a little personally annoyed.
I am seriously considering moving to CO mainly because family is there, the air quality is better, crime is very low in the places I am considering as home, the ratio of whites to hispanics is absolutely
nothing compared to where I live now in SoCal -- I'm talking 88 to 95 percent whites, the freeways are only crowded during rush hour, the mountains are beautiful, and every time I've visited these places, I have felt mentally and physically healthier and not the least bit in fear for my life or property. Am I deluding myself? I don't really think so.
I take the Denver crime stats and illegal population stats under considering, of course (along with a ton of other stats that I've looked at). I am hardly naive when it comes to those; I have researched them thoroughly. But I also think that you can over-research things to the point where you are afraid to move
anywhere -- that "it's everywhere," that no place is safe, and that the only way to escape it is to live like a hermit somewhere in the middle of nowhere. (The only problem with that is that, conversely, the more remote you are from everything, the more attractive a target your home becomes for criminals. Hmmm.)
The fact that you are not from Denver (and when was the last time you visited it for, say, a few weeks?) also tells me that perhaps you don't have the real-world experience that is critical in really getting an accurate picture of some of the places you post stats on.
I'm just curious to know where you live. Not as a challenge; just curious to know what place you decided to call home. I thought you had indicated Arizona, but I see now that that was you posting to stephenjohnbanker, not the other way around. (Sometimes FR's thread style, with the TO on the top and the BY on the bottom, gets me messed up, since just about every other forum I visit has the author's name near the top of the post.) But where are you? Since you seem to think that there is no escaping this suffocating crime unless you're in the middle of nowhere, I'm just interested in where you are and also what recommendations you might have for me in that regard, either towns in CO or elsewhere.
Thanks.