Violent Home Intrusion Fatal to (14 y/o) Teen, Pine Bluff police say.

Arkansas Democrat Gazette ^ | 26 AUG 07 | dcbryan1

[DCBryan1]

Resident reports 14-year-old with gun kicked in door, opened fire, and homowner shot back.

PINE BLUFF

[Shooter 2.5]

And one always thinks about the potential problem of sheetrock walls on the hallway side, with possible bullet penetration (the floor, ceiling, and three other walls are concrete).

9MM or .38 Special Glasers Safety Slugs if you're worried about penetrating walls.

[Hazcat]

...OC (red pepper) sprays for home or personal use...

Condiments should not be used for personal defense.

[hdstmf]

Another child taken by by gun violence.

GOOD, considering he had a gun too. He just ran up against a better shot.

[Admin Moderator]

I pulled it because it was posted with an erroneous link. No conspiracy, here. Move along.

[Charles Martel]

Highly unlikely that that punk would have turned out to be a brain surgeon so it’s no great loss.No loss at all,actually.

Yep, the "good riddance factor" is sky-high in this case.

[Joann37]

Did anyone actually read the article? I tried to log on and it said it was for paid subscribers only.

[blam]

Your pepper defense will get you killed for sure. Get a gun.

[VeniVidiVici]

Here you go:

Police in Pine Bluff tell us that a teenage boy who was shot while breaking into a person’s home has died. It’s an update to a story we brought you first Thursday night. Pine Bluff detectives say 14-year-old Winston Walls had a gun when he was shot and killed by the homeowner.

I’m sure he had some excellent role models at home.

http://www.fox16.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=2731cb80-4a52-47cf-98bb-a48870267bca&rss=315

[jdm]

LOL. Okay. :O)

[Travis McGee]

Another “child killed by gun violence” for the grabboid stat-keepers.

[AnnaZ]

That was so painful to read I almost wanted to start screaming.

[Gritty]

one always thinks about the potential problem of sheetrock walls on the hallway side, with possible bullet penetration...

Try one of these...

TAURUS MODEL 45 TEN .45/.410 (2.5" chamber)

[VeniVidiVici]

Great tagline! :-)

[angkor]

Your pepper defense will get you killed for sure. Get a gun

You didn't read the post. I have several.

[angkor]

Condiments should not be used for personal defense.

Is that supposed to be funny?

[Hazcat]

Is that supposed to be funny?

Yes and no.

While it (pepper spray) is better than nothing it is not anything upon which I would depend.

When I was in the service I was always amazed at the number of troops that easily 'survived' the CS chamber. Probably in the 5-7% range that the stuff barely affected.

That Taurus a few posts up is "The Judge" it can be loaded with either 45 colt (long colt) or .410 in any combination in the 5 chambers. The 4inch model only weighs 29 oz and it is not expensive, GREAT choice for home / car defense.

[angkor]

While it (pepper spray) is better than nothing it is not anything upon which I would depend.

I agree 100 percent.

As as I said in my original post, my wife is resistant to firearms. Not for me, but for her. I've been trying for years.

But she's been known to keep our most evil looking butcher knife under the pillow when I've been away on business.

Home and personal defense isn't entirely bound up in firearms. A Ruger .454 Alaskan won't do one a lot of good if it's in the closet, while a 3oz OC spray might be very useful at the front door.

Personally I think "non-lethal" alternatives are a good thing to have around and at hand.

[KeyLargo]

Waaaa, waaaa. Another MSM lib crying about the plight of gun controllers.

“Do you want to be standing in line for gas, popcorn or a gallon of milk and find yourself next to someone who’s packing heat?”

Yes, I do as a matter of fact Ms Washington as long is it is a fellow law-abiding citizen.

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CHICAGO SUN-TIMES

Gun lovers disarm control advocates

August 27, 2007

LAURA WASHINGTON novakevans@aol.com
It looks like the petulant, gun-toting NRA stalwarts have won the first round.

Last time, I used this space to ask where you stand on the issue of gun control. A torrent of e-mails later, it’s clear: Gun-control advocates were outgunned, four to one.

The gun lovers were legion, robust and vitriolic. Many of you told me to go places where the sun doesn’t shine and the temperature is way too hot. Yet, if you believe public opinion polls, that reaction is an anomaly. For instance, last April, ABC News polled adults nationwide, and asked: “Do you favor or oppose stricter gun control laws in this country?” Sixty-one percent favored them, 36 percent were opposed, and 3 percent were “unsure.”

CBS News asked, “In general, do you feel the laws covering the sale of handguns should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now?” Two-thirds of respondents nationwide opted for “more strict.”

What is the problem with the advocates of gun control? Why are their voices not being heard? They are consistently cowed and overmatched. Gun violence is out of control, yet the gun lovers are ascendant.

You think we’ve got problems now? Just listen to Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and Republican presidential aspirant. At a recent Conservative Political Action Conference, he bragged, “I’m not a newcomer to the NRA,” the New York Times reported on its political blog. “I was the first governor to have a conceal-carry permit, so don’t mess with me.”

Huckabee, mind you, recently made a flashy second-place showing in the Iowa presidential straw poll.

Do you want to be standing in line for gas, popcorn or a gallon of milk and find yourself next to someone who’s packing heat? If he takes the White House, we can all go shopping for embossed leather holsters and pearl-handled pistols. I’ll be looking to accessorize that with rhinestone-studded boots.

Luckily, Huckabee is a long shot.

Still, despite the polls, it seems the gun control advocates have been outmatched. Abigail Spangler acknowledges as much. Spangler is the founder of ProtestEasyGuns.com, a Virginia-based group that has been spearheading a slew of anti-gun protests around the nation.

Gun control activists, she wrote me, “are TRYING HARD but they are seriously affected in state after state by lack of funding and contributions.” She recently met, she says, with the leader of Virginia’s only gun control group. “He says they may not even be able to afford any lobbyist at all soon in Virginia!”

This comes just four months after the Virginia Tech shooting massacre, which took 32 lives.

Our elected officials have either been bought off or are missing in action. The odds are against the majority of Americans who are terrified and sickened by the gun menace.

For Spangler, it comes down to one urgent hope. “Who knows whether our protests against lax gun laws will make a difference?” she asks. “It’s basically my ‘Hail Mary’ pass — a pass of desperation to the American people — that I hope they will catch.”

If I had my way, the gun lobby would be looking at three yards and a cloud of dust. Let’s get organized and shove tougher gun policies right down their throats.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/washington/529247,CST-EDT-laura27.article

[Mr. Lucky]

Actually, the boy still led a life of crime.

[DeaconBenjamin]

Dwight Kates and his five children live next door just a few yards from the door that was kicked in. "It was frightening, frightening, because it easily could have happened to me," says Kates.

* * *

He says it may be time to get a handgun to protect his family. "No, I'm not armed, but I think I need to be. If it had happened to me, I would have done the same thing. I would have shot to protect what's mine," says Kates.

Even better.