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To: shrinkermd

Many of the brightest give up on formal education altogether before graduating high school. Many do not complete a college degree.

Heard straight from the horse’s mouth:
I do not like bright students in my class. They are disruptive.
-—Ms Mediocre, high school teacher


3 posted on 08/27/2007 8:30:01 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: RightWhale
A woman I worked with went to conferences when her daughter was in elementary school and was told by the teacher, "Frankly, she's so little trouble that I have a hard time recalling very much about her."

The woman immediately put her child in private school.

31 posted on 08/27/2007 8:50:12 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (I practice Calorie Offset Trading: I eat a candy bar then pay my kid $10 to run around the block)
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To: RightWhale
Many of the brightest give up on formal education altogether before graduating high school. Many do not complete a college degree.

That does happen, and that's one of the reasons I get torqued when I see FReepers write stuff like, "We need apprenticeship programs for people who aren't bright enough to go on to college". I wonder how many bright kids who prefer working with their hands force themselves to get an MBA so they can make 30-40 grand a year, rather than make 60-80+ a year in the skilled trades because they know so many people ASSume , Bright people go to college, stupid people don't ; ergo, everyone in a job that requires a degree is smart and everyone in a job that doesn't so require is ipso facto stupid . Conversely , an ability to retain what you read and regurgitate it back in essays and on tests makes for an ability to get good grades in school and college...But does it necessarily mean a person can reason well , or possesses any originality in his thinking? I am not saying that every dropout is an unsung genius, nor am I saying everyone who does well in school at any level is of necessity a plodding mediocrity, but the attitude that not getting a college degree is automatic proof of intellectual inferiority is causing problems.

43 posted on 08/27/2007 8:55:19 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: RightWhale

Heard straight from the horse’s mouth:
I do not like bright students in my class. They are disruptive.
-—Ms Mediocre, high school teacher

It is annoying to have students ask question above the teachers level of comprehension.


89 posted on 08/27/2007 9:20:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: RightWhale
Many of the brightest give up on formal education altogether before graduating high school.

The most intelligent thing a gifted student who finds himself in the government schools can do is drop out and go directly to college.

A high school diploma indicates the recipient hasn't the foggiest concept of opportunity cost.

152 posted on 08/27/2007 10:40:20 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: RightWhale

Main-streaming gifted and learning-disabled into average classrooms results in every child being left behind.

This is what public schools are doing.

Lots of kids who for whatever reason miss out on the Honors or AP labeling languish in “average” (translation less than mediocre) classes.


171 posted on 08/27/2007 11:02:18 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: RightWhale
pushes teachers to ignore high-ability students through its exclusive focus on bringing students to minimum proficiency.

Where do you come up with this stuff? In my kid's highschool class virtually all of the bright ones went on to college.

189 posted on 08/27/2007 11:32:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: RightWhale
Many do not complete a college degree.

I can think of a few extemely intelligent people who dropped out of college. They are worth millions today.

221 posted on 08/27/2007 1:21:33 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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