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Italian police to investigate abortion of wrong twin (botched abortion shocks Italy)
Guardian ^ | August 27, 2007 | John Hooper

Posted on 08/27/2007 1:03:41 PM PDT by NYer

Italian police have been asked to investigate a case in which doctors treating a 40-year-old woman who was pregnant with twins aborted a healthy foetus while leaving a second, malformed one untouched.

The San Paolo hospital in Milan yesterday confirmed a report of the blunder in the daily Corriere della Sera. A statement from the hospital said the twins had changed places inside the womb between the first ultrasound scan and a second one carried out shortly before the operation, which took place in the 18th week of the pregnancy. It said it had handed the case notes to the "competent authorities".

The "misfortune", as the hospital termed it, is the latest of several high-profile errors that have prompted fierce debate over both the standards of professionalism in Italy's hospitals and the application of its abortion law. In March, a foetus aborted in the 22nd week of pregnancy at a hospital in Florence, because of suspected deformities, was found to be physically sound. It was rescuscitated and survived for a brief period.

A leading Christian Democrat politician, Luca Volonte, denounced the latest case as "infanticide arising from a contempt for human life". He said the health minister should also investigate the blunder, which the hospital said took place in June.

Italian news agencies said the woman subsequently returned to hospital to have the remaining, deformed foetus aborted. She then reported the doctors to police.

Italy's still-controversial 1978 law provides for abortion on demand up to the 90th day of gestation. However, doctors can terminate pregnancies at a later stage if there is a danger to the life of the mother or if the foetus is malformed.

In 2004, the latest year for which figures are available, less than 3% of the 138,000 abortions in Italy, were undertaken after the 90-day mark.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureofdeath; downsyndrome; eugenics; infanticide; italy; prolife

1 posted on 08/27/2007 1:03:44 PM PDT by NYer
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Catholic Ping
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2 posted on 08/27/2007 1:04:09 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Imagine the outrage if they had killed a dog!


3 posted on 08/27/2007 1:11:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: NYer

Yikes. We are a scary bunch, skating on the edge.


4 posted on 08/27/2007 1:13:08 PM PDT by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: holdonnow; sono; rightwingintelligentsia; Fudd Fan; HonestConservative

ping


5 posted on 08/27/2007 1:16:06 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Today's stolen graphics courtesy of: http://arewelumberjacks.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jeff Chandler

So true. In many places they won’t even let us adopt a dog without proving our worthiness. Kill a dog and there is almost NO CHANCE of getting away with it. If only children could get that kind of security :(


6 posted on 08/27/2007 1:19:31 PM PDT by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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To: NYer

It’s a more understandable error than amputating the wrong foot, but if people weren’t so obsessed with perfection and abortion, it wouldn’t have happened, but that’s the chance you take..

I wonder what the *birth defect* was?


7 posted on 08/27/2007 1:24:06 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NYer

I guess you just cannot trust your abortionist! Who would have thought?


8 posted on 08/27/2007 1:27:46 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

In Czechoslovakia an abortion was referred to a a “cancelled Czech”.....


9 posted on 08/27/2007 1:32:31 PM PDT by tracer
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To: iowamark

In Czechoslovakia an abortion was referred to a a “cancelled Czech”.....


10 posted on 08/27/2007 1:32:32 PM PDT by tracer
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To: NYer
22nd week of pregnancy ___________________________ At 22 weeks: The fetus is about 7½ inches long and weighs about one pound. The fetus has fingerprints and perhaps some head and body hair. The fetus may suck its thumb and is more active. The brain is growing very rapidly. The fetal heartbeat can be easily heard. The kidneys start to work. At 23 weeks, approximately 31% of babies born survive.


11 posted on 08/27/2007 1:39:23 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: NYer

3 D ultrasound at 22 weeks.

12 posted on 08/27/2007 1:41:15 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: NYer
Italian news agencies said the woman subsequently returned to hospital to have the remaining, deformed foetus aborted. She then reported the doctors to police.

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This story is so sad, I simply cannot express it.

13 posted on 08/27/2007 1:41:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer
It was rescuscitated and survived for a brief period.

Too bad for it, huh?

14 posted on 08/27/2007 1:48:04 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: NYer
That's interesting... (botched abortion shocks Italy)

But successful abortions don't?!!! Go figure!!!

15 posted on 08/27/2007 1:53:03 PM PDT by mtg
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To: trisham

Yes, this story hit me harder for some reason than most abortion stories. It was a healthy baby that was wanted but killed because the mother didn’t want to raise a baby with a defect. Terrible. And then she aborts the baby with the defect as well after they kill the healthy baby. And so late in the term. At that age I read that they put a needle into the heart of the baby they want to kill and inject poison. The baby has to feel pain.


16 posted on 08/27/2007 1:53:24 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: NYer
the woman subsequently returned to hospital to have the remaining, deformed foetus aborted. She then reported the doctors to police.

My God! They make it sound like she returned a dress that didn't fit. She's 40 years old. The pregnancy was probably IVF. Not one word about the human tragedy of it, the grief of the parents, nothing. Just the medical malpractice. Mark Steyn says Italy's birth rate is so low the population will halve every 35 years. Italians are aborting themselves out of existence. Apparently, without regret.

17 posted on 08/27/2007 1:53:26 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor and two Marines! Frodo Lives!)
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To: Coleus

Here’s one for your pro-life list.

Did that aborted baby have a right to life?


18 posted on 08/27/2007 1:53:31 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: NYer; All
I first read it this morning in this link: Botched abortion shocks Italy, where the deformed twin fetus' 'malformation' was down syndrome. It seems to be the same story. I don't want to rush to conclusions, but I hope the UK report listed above isn't calling down syndrome a deformity. Not that it much matters, because the little twin has lost his/her sibling and those who push abortion as a 'solution' seem to have an ever increasing list of imperfections to eliminate.

Italian police have been asked to investigate a case in which doctors treating a 40-year-old woman who was pregnant with twins aborted a healthy foetus while leaving a second, malformed one untouched.

This healthy baby was aborted and they are outraged but only because they made a mistake on which one they were aborting, yet every day thousands of healthy babies are casually discarded...

19 posted on 08/27/2007 2:00:39 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: athelass
"the grief of the parents,"

The "grief of the parents"? Are you joking? Where was Il Papa in his role staying this grevious harm? And absent an epiphany about what she's just done, her conscience will burn to her last days.

20 posted on 08/27/2007 2:01:23 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Greg F
Yes, this story hit me harder for some reason than most abortion stories. It was a healthy baby that was wanted but killed because the mother didn’t want to raise a baby with a defect. Terrible. And then she aborts the baby with the defect as well after they kill the healthy baby. And so late in the term. At that age I read that they put a needle into the heart of the baby they want to kill and inject poison. The baby has to feel pain.

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I don't know how anyone could read this story and not realize the evil of abortion. I don't think I've ever heard of anything more tragic.

That the mother could, after all of this, sue the doctor, is beyond me.

21 posted on 08/27/2007 2:02:14 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Imagine the outrage if they had killed a dog!

Took the words right out of mouth

22 posted on 08/27/2007 2:02:25 PM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sell - Cheap)
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To: Kevmo
Did that aborted baby have a right to life?

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Both babies had a right to life.

23 posted on 08/27/2007 2:04:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

They should sterilize this woman and her husband, if she has one.


24 posted on 08/27/2007 2:07:58 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Eugenics ping...


25 posted on 08/27/2007 2:11:16 PM PDT by TheSarce
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To: trisham

Both babies had a right to life.
***No, they didn’t. That’s why the parents could choose to kill either one. Those babies do not have the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness extended to them by the constitutions of the governments in Italy (nor the USA). That is what needs to change.


26 posted on 08/27/2007 2:33:24 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: metmom
I wonder what the *birth defect* was?

Down's syndrome. God had the last laugh here!

27 posted on 08/27/2007 4:01:13 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Greg F

Thank you, Greg, for posting those pictures!


28 posted on 08/27/2007 4:03:02 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: athelass
Mark Steyn says Italy's birth rate is so low the population will halve every 35 years. Italians are aborting themselves out of existence. Apparently, without regret.

They are also contracepting themselves out of existence. To fill the lack of workers, they have imported Muslims from the middle east. Need I say more.

29 posted on 08/27/2007 4:05:48 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: fortunecookie
I hope the UK report listed above isn't calling down syndrome a deformity.

Of course they are!

A few years ago, a British woman aborted her baby because it had a cleft lip. This outraged other British who had been born with cleft lips and/or palates and had them surgically repaired. This is the slippery slope of abortion.

30 posted on 08/27/2007 4:08:28 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

How on earth did they diagnose a Down’s Syndrome baby with an ultrasound?

And did they verify that it actually WAS Down’s after they aborted it, I wonder?

I hear way too many stories of babies diagnosed with birth defects whose parents were advised to have an abortion and they didn’t. The baby was then born perfectly normal.

The left hates life.


31 posted on 08/27/2007 6:44:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NYer

By the grace of God, I hope this woman is never able to conceive again.


32 posted on 08/27/2007 7:09:31 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer
Ave Maria! What's unique about the Italian abortion industry is that it seems to thrive on married couples who want only one or two children (I was stationed in Italy for 2 years and they are destroying themselves by contraception and abortion). In the USA the abortion industry seems to thrive more on fornication, adultery (and rape--which Planned Barrenhood never reports). Regardless of the circumstances, abortion is always a murder of a preborn child, a violent rejection of the dignity and duties of motherhood, a contradiction to what the medical field is supposed to be all about, an insult to the Creator of life... it's a mortal sin and, in the Catholic Church, is an automatic excommunication (but alas, the press and the medical world could care less about the eternal consequences of abortion). Really, contraception and the contraceptive mentality is the slippery slope that has led Italy (and the USA) to this point of mass holocaust of preborn babies. Where there is a contraceptive mentality there are "unwanted" pregnancies and thus abortion. And, by the way, Downs Syndrome babies are pure fountains of God's love. STOP the baby-killing! Kyrie eleison...
33 posted on 08/27/2007 7:18:22 PM PDT by fr maximilian mary ("Imitate Jesus, love Mary as your Mother." Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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Ave Maria!

What's unique about the Italian abortion industry is that it seems to thrive on married couples who want only one or two children (I was stationed in Italy for 2 years and they are destroying themselves by contraception and abortion). In the USA the abortion industry seems to thrive more on fornication, adultery (and rape--which Planned Barrenhood never reports). Regardless of the circumstances, abortion is always a murder of a preborn child, a violent rejection of the dignity and duties of motherhood, a contradiction to what the medical field is supposed to be all about, an insult to the Creator of life... it's a mortal sin and, in the Catholic Church, is an automatic excommunication (but alas, the press and the medical world could care less about the eternal consequences of abortion).

Really, contraception and the contraceptive mentality is the slippery slope that has led Italy (and the USA) to this point of mass holocaust of preborn babies. Where there is a contraceptive mentality there are "unwanted" pregnancies and thus abortion.

And, by the way, Downs Syndrome babies are pure fountains of God's love.

STOP the baby-killing! Kyrie eleison...

34 posted on 08/27/2007 7:18:46 PM PDT by fr maximilian mary ("Imitate Jesus, love Mary as your Mother." Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: NYer; TheSarce
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


35 posted on 08/28/2007 4:24:19 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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The "misfortune", as the hospital termed it...

Getting chopped into little pieces by a so-called medical doctor is very "unfortunate."

Excuse me while I puke.

36 posted on 08/28/2007 4:56:07 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: NYer
A few years ago, a British woman aborted her baby because it had a cleft lip. This outraged other British who had been born with cleft lips and/or palates and had them surgically repaired.

It should. If it's better for a baby to be dead than to live with disease X, shouldn't we kill everyone with disease X?

37 posted on 08/28/2007 5:00:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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38 posted on 08/28/2007 2:21:04 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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WOW!

PING!

39 posted on 08/28/2007 10:31:45 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: NYer; MountainFlower

How horrible! How can a parent kill her child because their child is not “perfect” according to their sense of the word? This beautiful little girl was created in the image of God, and she had the right to life. Sadly, it was not recognized. In the attempt to kill her “defective” child, she proceeded her perfectly healthy child. Perhaps God decided a mother worthy of doing such a thing doesn’t deserve either. May both these babies rest in peace!


40 posted on 08/29/2007 3:22:56 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: NYer

I’ve often wondered if it’s still considered a double homicide if you kill a pregnant woman on her way to an abortion clinic. What if she was about to change her mind? How would the killer know?


41 posted on 08/29/2007 3:26:08 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Pinkbell

rips my heart out.


42 posted on 08/29/2007 11:00:43 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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