Guess What Folks - Secession Wasn't Treason

The Copperhead Chronicles ^ | August 2007 | Al Benson

[Non-Sequitur]

Sorry. You can't convince me that the recipient of a letter who insists on using a nom de plume [but they supposedly found who it was anyway] had an undated, unsigned letter that specified it not be published [moral turpitude, anyone?] can constitute any kind of evidence.

So you blame sloppy work on the part of Hunt when he edited Madison's writings into a 9 volume collection? Are you suggesting none of the letters in the collection are Madison's? Or just the ones that disagree with you?

[MamaTexan]

Please make your argument if you can that Madisons intent/explaination/justification re states rights at the time he wrote the letter to Jefferson were not carried out in the ratified document.

Why should I? You are the one who submitted Madison's preRadification letter as proof. You need to support it.

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But I did find the correct ref which you are dodging because the constitution hadn’t been ratified yet.

Dodging? Not hardly.

You first contention concerning Jefferson was:

Jefferson’s fundamental misunderstanding in the Kentucky Resolutions—which misled me, when I was young—was his premise that the Constitution is a sort of league between the states. When I first read the Resolutions, I did not understand this subtle point (nor did I know that in 1798, Madison had tried to explain to Jefferson that this was wrong.)

First off, was it 1798 or 1787? 1787 is that date at your source, but you state 1798 in the original post.

Secondly, how can Madison 'explain' something to Jefferson in a letter that was written years before Jefferson supposedly 'misunderstood'?

Thirdly, yes the time line of the Constitution does matter, just as the subject of the supporting documents does. Nowhere in this letter does Madison say anything about the States' ability to leave the Compact or that the Compact is an eternal contract.

Not to mention you've never provide Jefferson's assumptions that Madison is supposed to be refuting.

It can't be the Resolutions. We've both seen that they agreed.

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BTW, speaking of dodging-

Please point out the word permanent, perpetual, continual or any other synonym for eternity in the Constitution that shows that the ability of the federal government to prevent a State from leaving the Union at will is not one of the powers reserved to the States respectively, or to the people by the 10th Amendment.

[MamaTexan]

So you blame sloppy work on the part of Hunt when he edited Madison's writings into a 9 volume collection? Are you suggesting none of the letters in the collection are Madison's? Or just the ones that disagree with you?

Nice tap-dancing on your part. I see you again fail to address the very logical and reasonable question that would enable any rational-thinking person from judging the veracity of the letter in question for himself.

Have you EVER seen a correspondence by James Madison that was neither dated nor signed?

[MamaTexan]

...any rational-thinking person from judging to judge the veracity .....