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Treason at the Kos? (Report: U.S. Navy Officer in Theater Leaks Iran Attack Details to Kos Diarist)
MacsMind.com ^ | Sunday, Sepember 2, 2007 | Macranger

Posted on 09/02/2007 1:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn

I call Bravo Sierra! I left the military some years ago, but I cannot believe it has changed that much! It shouldn’t be too hard to find a female LSO, since I wouldn’t think there’s that many of them.


181 posted on 09/02/2007 6:50:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: kristinn
all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.

I would hope so. We always had detailed plans to attack, or retaliate against, the Soviet Union too. But we never did it, thank God. I used to help translate those plans into graphics for the flight crews of the BUFFs, so I know they existed, and were just as detailed, more so in fact, constituting what the Squids would call "Rudder orders".

182 posted on 09/02/2007 6:57:21 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kristinn
I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret attack that it would be treason.

Should have listened to your father little lady, if you exist outside the fevered imagination of some Kosovite.

He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die,

That's why he's called the Commander in Chief. Check your Constitution, you know, the one you swore to uphold against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

But if you asked any of the flight officers whether they have a clear idea of what the goal of this strike is, your answer would sound like something out of a think tank policy paper. But it’s not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing.”

Which was what in the case of Kosovo?

Oh and if you were around for Kosovo, you were also around for Desert Fox. What was the purpose of that, other than to draw attention away from the CinC's DNA and the creative uses he found for his cigar?

183 posted on 09/02/2007 7:07:34 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: CCGuy
certain things lead me to believe this is made up and it is written by someone with very little respect for our military.

You think:

Hillary Wrote It?


184 posted on 09/02/2007 7:11:35 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kristinn

some things about it didn’t ring true. I think the poster is making it up.


185 posted on 09/02/2007 7:12:30 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Grampa Dave; ASA Vet
As a former Naval Intelligence Officer, my BS meter blew early and the back-up burned brightly.

The intel and ops people wouldn't even speak among themselves about policy much less to a junior LSO. We certainly would not discuss threat and operational planning with one.

When did an LSO ever give a rat's rear end about the level of weapon's stores and how they were designated? And who gave an ensign permission to think?

Bravo Sierra (big time)

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

186 posted on 09/02/2007 7:13:31 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: radar101; All
The diary entry has been pulled from the Daily Kos.

The entry now reads: Sorry. I can't seem to find that story.

LOL!

187 posted on 09/02/2007 7:59:08 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

lol internet.


188 posted on 09/02/2007 8:10:06 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: james500
“Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die, and yet few of us here are really able to cobble together a great explanation of why this is a good idea.”

Total BS. Anyone who was this flaming leftist and couldn't hide THESE feelings wouldn't last 5 minutes in the military. If I had a fellow soldier say something like this around me I'd kick their ass and turn them into my superiors as a huge security risk.

189 posted on 09/02/2007 8:21:47 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: kristinn

I haven’t read the thread, but I know about the War Colleges that the military runs.

How would you attack Great Britain?
Document and file it.

How would you attack Israel?
Document and file it.

How would you attack Iran?
Document and file it.

Conduct war games on the above.

The LSO in question is seeking to disrupt operations and IS guilty of treason. She should walk the plank.


190 posted on 09/02/2007 8:22:53 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: USNBandit
And nobody listens to an ensign.....ever.

Hey, I was an Ensign once. And...



...You're right. And for very, very good reasons.

191 posted on 09/02/2007 8:29:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: stm

“How can anyone take anything off KOS seriously?”

Regardless of your personal opinion about the website, they get some pretty credible diarists over there.
Just sayin’....


192 posted on 09/02/2007 8:40:25 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: Grizzled Bear

Wasn’t it “Baby MILK Factory”?


193 posted on 09/02/2007 8:52:13 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: radar101

Thanks for the link Radar. Went to his blog and browsed around. Good guy...good instincts and glad he’s on our side!!


194 posted on 09/02/2007 8:59:00 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: CCGuy

First of all, it isn’t even written like a disciplined LSO. That is the first thing that comes to mind. Second, she could only be on a few carriers and how many LSO’s are female? Seems like the poster would know they would locate her in about 5 min. How about officers “disappearing” It is not common to take officers off a carrier in the middle of the night and leave a hole in the command structure. How does this LSO know how many Tomahawk missiles the United States has in inventory? Frankly this was so bad I didn’t even read the whole article.


195 posted on 09/02/2007 9:00:28 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: soupcon

Are they all as credible as this one?


196 posted on 09/02/2007 9:04:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

I am a somewhat mysoginistic pervert, and I found that bothersome....


197 posted on 09/02/2007 9:04:37 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: USNBandit

“Liberals never let a little thing like facts or the truth get in the way of a good story” ;’}


198 posted on 09/02/2007 9:35:38 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: armymarinemom
he Marines now have carriers?

Just a military illiterate relaying the story. Marine Carriers are ships that carry Marines, in this case the dumb as a post Kosovite is apparently referring to the so called "Harrier Carriers", which actually carry more helicopters than Harriers. IOW, Amphibious Assault Ships of the Wasp and Tarawa classes.

Of course if her "Friend" the Lady LSO, is also a Marine, that really cuts down on the potential list of candidates for a firing squad. Probably down to zero. There are Marines flying off the Big Deck Carriers, and their are female pilots doing so as well, a few of which are probably also LSOs. But a lady Marine pilot/LSO, really stretches the probabilities from barely possible to very very unlikely. Females have only been flying Marine Aircraft of any kind since 1995, and she flew the CH-53E, not a fixed wing bird. She transferred to the reserves in '04 after 12 years (total) on active duty. Can't be many senior enough and experienced enough to be an LSO.

199 posted on 09/02/2007 9:42:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: USNBandit
My operational unit used to look at contingencies for the Korean Penninsula all the time. That was in the 90's and we still haven't bombed anybody in NK.

More's the pity.

But the politicians have to reach down, find a pair, and "pull the trigger" before any of that planning actually gets used.

200 posted on 09/02/2007 9:57:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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