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The 50 Worst Cars of All Time
time.com ^ | Dan Neil,

Posted on 09/09/2007 6:36:38 AM PDT by shove_it

... the Model T was a piece of junk, the Yugo of its day...

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: automobiles; automotive; autos; cars; designdisasters; mechanicaldisasters; topten
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To: RayChuang88
While the K-car helped Chrysler come back, it was the minivan derived from this very platform that really drove Chrysler’s comeback.

No doubt there. Small vans weren't new -- the VW bus/vanagon was around forever, and there was even a Corvair van, and probably some others I can't think of. Coming up with a small van that had passenger-car ride, handling and amenities earns Iacocca & co. some props.

The funny thing is that for a man, driving a minivan today is the ultimate sign that you've been domesticated. Funny, because a decent minivan is downright sexy compared to what it replaced, the station wagon.

161 posted on 09/09/2007 8:26:34 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: shove_it
1924 Model “T” Ford Truck – I spent hundreds of hours in the back of one of these in the 1940’s while loading watermelons. It was replaced in 1950 by a 1940 85hp pickup. Watch how you hold the crank handle or you break a thumb when it backfires.


162 posted on 09/09/2007 8:26:43 AM PDT by CHEE (You don't have to practice to be miserable.)
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To: shove_it
Interestingly, it was Ford President Robert McNamara who convinced the board to bail out of the Edsel project; a decade later, it was McNamara, then Secretary of Defense, who couldn't bring himself to quit the disaster of Vietnam, even though he knew a lemon when he saw one.

It was 50 years ago this past weekend (Labor Day weekend) in 1957 that the Ford Edsel was unveiled at dealers all over America. The magazine "advertising teasers" showed cars wrapped in brown paper being delivered via trailers causing intrigue and anticipation. But leave it to Time/CNN to turn this into political commentary. If McNamara knew Vietnam was a lemon "when he saw one", why was McNamara in charge from the very beginning of the escalation of the conflict during the Kennedy Administration and still around throughout the LBJ fiasco trying to "fix it"? The good old Mainstream Media -- what a bunch of liars and Dem-sympathizing losers.

PS: The Edsel looked like a Buick sucking a lemon -- the vagina reference is Time looking to be provacative.

163 posted on 09/09/2007 8:27:52 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: shove_it

Chevy Vega not on list. Bad list.


164 posted on 09/09/2007 8:28:27 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: L98Fiero

There was almost no traction. Luckily, traffic was heavy and we were moving slow anyway.


165 posted on 09/09/2007 8:30:11 AM PDT by P.O.E. (School's back in session. Please watch for school buses.)
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To: L98Fiero

I totally agree. After the description of the Model T and how it forced the evil automobile on the US consumer with all it horrendous consequences, I stopped reading. Sheesh, what a load of crapola.


166 posted on 09/09/2007 8:31:26 AM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: TruthWillWin

Last year my cousin sold me her lovingly taken care of 1996 Explorer.

It certainly does put me above the traffic,thats for sure, but it allows me to go out in the snow without getting stuck and I have a feeling I’d be safer in an accident than a little $14,00 jap crapbox.

Oh, and I paid just $2,000 for it. It runs great, doesnt use any oil and the engine purrs like a kitten.

So that guy can just bite my white middle aged male ass.


167 posted on 09/09/2007 8:32:18 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: All
I have been a Auto hobbist since before I could get my license.
I have owned more than 200 cars ( I like 30’s to 60’s with a strong leaning to Britsh,German and French cars but I like American Iron too.) in the last 40 years.
Some of which are in this article.

I have my eye on a Model T that been in a garage down the Street for over 40 years. I had one that was a hot rod but now I want a stocker with mountain brakes of course.

Amc Pacer Wagon it went thru everyone in our family as a utility car we drove over for over 150000 miles.

Trabbi I still say that my Trabbi was the most reliable car I ever drove over 40000 miles without even a flat tire.

He has alot of cars I would like to own on that list.

Here is a site with some great little Cycle Cars.

168 posted on 09/09/2007 8:32:31 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: shove_it
Maybe there should be a new thread about the 50 most absurd liberal articles about nothing but wrapping their agenda around a random topic. They could spin remote control instructions into a treatise on global warming, endangered species or ant-capitalism
169 posted on 09/09/2007 8:32:57 AM PDT by hford02 (there are 200,000 potential Islamic suicide martyrs in the US...)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
PS: The Edsel looked like a Buick sucking a lemon

I remember that the grill was thought to look like either a horse collar or a toilet seat, the female anatomy wasn't part of the equation (as a frame of reference, I graduated HS in 1971, Edsels were becoming scarce as they rusted into oblivion, but you could still buy one for a couple of hundred bucks or less.

170 posted on 09/09/2007 8:33:42 AM PDT by par4 (Scruting the inscrutable since the 20th century)
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To: OC_Steve
My only complaint with the Hummer (I mean the real one, not the girly "H2," or G-d forbit, the sissified H3!) is that you can't get one with the machine gun or grenade launcher mounted on the roof as an option from the dealer. :-(

I want one with lasers (holding my hands in the air making the quotation sign - ala Dr. Evil).

I was (and am) being absolutely serious! There was the Toys for Tots drop-off point last Christmas, and the USMC was there. Two of the vehicles they had there were HMMVYs, one with an M2, the other with the automatic grenade launcher mounted on the top. I asked if they'd let me take either of them out for a spin, but they wouldn't. :-( . It would certainly make my daily commute a more enjoyable one...

Mark

171 posted on 09/09/2007 8:33:43 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: shove_it
The list is just a list, not a great one. No Opel Kaddett model made the list. Nor did the VW Dasher. Nor any of the Messerschmidt three wheelers ...


172 posted on 09/09/2007 8:34:29 AM PDT by bvw
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To: the invisib1e hand
[Renault LeCar has to be in that list somewhere.]

I had the misfortune of driving my friend’s LeCar once for about 3 hours of a 10 hour trip. The left rear suspension broke loose from the vehicle while taking an off-ramp at 25 mph, leaving us stranded by the side of the road. Apparently, the LeCar isn’t designed to make slow turns to the right.

173 posted on 09/09/2007 8:36:19 AM PDT by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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To: Ektelon

What I have wanted to know is who decided what is a good signal or a bad signal to be sending by doing anything? I’m getting over irritated about seeing every leftist politician on TV saying one thing or anything sends a “disturbing signal.”

Do they really think that because some rich dentist buys a $45,000 H2 that their neighbors will take that as some sort of sign that they can go out and burn more gas?


174 posted on 09/09/2007 8:37:23 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: clyde asbury

Fugly!


175 posted on 09/09/2007 8:40:18 AM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

T-87 Tarta now that a car I really would like to own.

http://www.tatra.demon.nl/


176 posted on 09/09/2007 8:41:44 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: shove_it
Any list like this that doesn't include the 1970 Vega should be immediately dismissed as the crap it is.

I vote for this list to be put on the "50 WORST LISTS OF ALL TIME".
177 posted on 09/09/2007 8:44:32 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: RayChuang88

The depression of 1920 weeded out many autos makers. So, you are right to say it was when GM became a “powerhouse” — but for the opposite reason you suppose, and a few years later on.

In 1916, Billy Durant recaptured the GM he had founded by merging it with Chevrolet. But as happened in 1910/11, when he lost GM for the first time, he overexpanded just as the country was entering WWI. By 1920 the value of the company was in the tank and Durant was out. The Duponts took full control and set things on track, but not necessarily right. For example, they backed Kettering’s near-disasterous air-cooled engine, which set the company back yet again.

While GM wandered in and out of WWI, Ford kept doing his one thing (while forcing out his partners and bankers), which the economic conditions and WWI-regulatory regime rewarded. GM came out of the early 1920s strong, but it was not a sure thing. That 4-year period of 1917-1920 was crucial for the Model T’s survival and ability to last through to 1926.

I guess what I’m arguing is that the Model T was at first an innovation that, thanks to the WWI government takeover of the economy, endured beyond its usefulness.


178 posted on 09/09/2007 8:49:14 AM PDT by nicollo (you're freakin' out!)
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To: All

Link for cycle cars

http://www.stevproj.com/Carz/CycleKart.html


179 posted on 09/09/2007 8:50:40 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: TWohlford
Q: Name the only car to ever go over the side of the Mackinaw Bridge, crashing into the water 200 feet below?

A: You got it — Yugo.

Yes, but intentional pushing of a vehicle off the bridge doesn't count.

Pushing a Yugo off a high bridge into a deep river or lake should merit a special award for service to mankind.

180 posted on 09/09/2007 8:52:02 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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