Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Mexicans pour into Canada from U.S; Agencies brace for thousands more
National Post ^ | 09/19/07 | CANADIAN PRESS

Posted on 09/19/2007 5:07:07 PM PDT by Pikamax

Tuesday, September 18, 2007

For 15 years, Manuel Ortega was living his version of the American Dream in Florida.

He had steady employment, sometimes working as a detailer for local car dealers, other times as a forklift driver. He earned enough to buy a van and rent a house for his wife and three children. His kids earned good grades in school and played with the family pet, a Shih Tzu named Chaparro (Shorty). They were safe and kept out of trouble.

Ortega's dream, as he recounted it Tuesday standing outside a room at a Windsor motel, is now but a memory. He is one of an estimated 180 Mexicans from Florida who've rushed across the border and into Windsor to claim refugee status, fleeing a crackdown on illegal aliens in Florida.

Local agencies that work with refugees have been told to brace for 4,000 to 8,000 refugee claimants.

Every single day this month, Mexican nationals who have been living illegally in Florida -- some for a dozen years or more -- are turning up at the Windsor-Detroit border seeking refugee status. The first group arrived at the YMCA on Aug. 28.

"They've been coming steadily ever since," said Jacquie Rumiel, director of programs for new Canadians at the YMCA.

The Ortegas left Naples, Fla. and say all they ask for in Canada is "a chance," said the father.

"Give us a chance to show what kind of people we are," the 39-year-old said. "We don't be afraid to work. We don't be afraid to start again. We need the chance, please, to do that."

Ortega said his fear of being deported to Mexico intensified within the past three months as immigration officials became more visible on the streets and the incidents of deportation of his acquaintances increased.

When his American neighbour threatened to report him to authorities, he told his family to pack-up. They simply couldn't risk returning to Mexico, where he says he fears the powerful drug cartels, corrupt government and poor living conditions.

"We don't have a future in Mexico," Ortega's 36-year-old wife said, noting her brother and his family also fled to Windsor fearing deportation. "We can't go back."

After driving his 1996 Grand Caravan for 24 hours without stopping -- except for gas and food -- the Ortegas arrived at the Windsor tunnel Sept. 11. When they told the border guard they were seeking refugee status, the Ortegas were given a list of social services organizations to contact for support.

The Y is one of the first stops for asylum seekers. The settlement program there directs new immigrants to legal help, housing and other programs.

It's hard to get a firm figure on the numbers who have arrived recently. While 120 have crossed the Y's threshold, the city's social services department, which is in daily contact with the Canada Border Services Agency, thinks the number is closer to 180. But the Salvation Army thinks the real number could be into the hundreds.

The Salvation Army has put up 50 families -- some with five, seven and nine children each -- at four city hotels. Their bills, including meals, are being sent directly to the city's social services department. Another 30 single men are sleeping and getting hot meals at the Salvation Army Church Street shelter.

"We are being inundated with them," said Maj. Wilfred Harbin, Salvation Army administrator. Like others in the city, he has heard that up to 7,000 Mexicans seeking refugee status could be headed this way.

"What are we going to do with them? We're running out of beds."

In fact, said Harbin, all the beds are filled. A handful of men are sleeping on mats on the gymnasium floor of the building. "Maybe the military can help us," said Harbin, unable to think of where else he could get a shipment of cots in a hurry.

Salvation Army hostel supervisor Marlene Dufault said she believes the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigrants has led to the influx of Mexicans at our border. She said a church group in Naples has been charging the asylum seekers $400 a head, promising them there will be jobs awaiting them here.

The Canadian Council for Refugees sent out an alert Tuesday in response to what it calls an "urgent" situation.

According to the national non-profit group that acts as an umbrella organization for agencies that help refugee claimants, there are "fraudulent advisers in the United States endangering asylum seekers" by telling them there is a "special Canadian program" for Mexicans.

The only accurate information the Mexicans are getting from these advisers is that they won't be turned away at the border.

Under the U.S.-Canada Safe Third Country Agreement, asylum seekers from the United States would normally be turned back. But those coming through the United States from Mexico are an exception because the United States would require those people to have a visa, but Canada does not.

Danny Yen, Canada Border Services Agency spokesman, explained that means the United States would not accept those people if turned back.

Legal Aid has begun footing the bill for the refugee claimants to get legal advice.

Immigration lawyer John Rokakis said seven Mexicans came through his door Tuesday with Legal Aid certificates paying for three hours of a lawyer's time. Monday he saw three others and had a steady trickle last week as well.

Few will have successful refugee claims, he predicted. "Of the ones I've seen there are maybe one or two that may have something," he said. One is a man who sought political asylum in the United States and was denied.

In the short term, the refugee claimants are the guests of city taxpayers. Some have U.S. bank accounts they can't access and others are destitute.

Teresa Piruzza, executive director of Ontario Works said, as of Monday, ten families and 18 individuals had applied for social assistance. "We're just starting to process them," Piruzza said of the applications.

Welfare currently pays up to $548 per month for individuals and $1,193 for families with two children under the age of 13.

As he recounted his story, Ortega repeatedly stressed his thanks to social services for helping his family.

"Social services, they help us too much," he said. "I want to say thanks and to Canadians 'thanks.'"

TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; duenorth; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; mexicancanada; mexicans; refugees
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last
To: Pikamax

“Well King. Looks like this case is closed.”

41 posted on 09/19/2007 5:56:39 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax

Canada; build a wall!

42 posted on 09/19/2007 5:57:47 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BurbankKarl

43 posted on 09/19/2007 6:02:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: BurbankKarl

They’s be back. After they find out how long the line is at the emergency room for tummy aches and sniffly noses.

44 posted on 09/19/2007 6:17:43 PM PDT by BobS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax

You Canadians, enjoy your Mexicans now, you hear!

45 posted on 09/19/2007 6:38:37 PM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax
Canada can use almost every immigrant it can get Mexican or otherwise.
46 posted on 09/19/2007 6:39:59 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax
"Give us a chance to show what kind of people we are," the 39-year-old said.

We know what kind of people you are, you are a law breaking, lying, welfare stealing thief. Don't come back. That two countries that don't want you.

47 posted on 09/19/2007 6:42:59 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enchante
"Let Canada experience the 1st million or two of illegal migration north and we’ll hear shrieks from socialist liberals like we never imagined, as they discover that their socialist paradise is being overrun by illegals."

They have a whole bunch of ME Muslim "refugees" up there already. Let's see if the Muslims and Mexicans make good neighbors. You know they won't. When the Muslims go jihad, the MS-13ers, Latin Kings and the 18th Street gang will want to be there for the festivities.

THREE birds hit with one stone:) Let's observe quietly...

48 posted on 09/19/2007 6:43:58 PM PDT by BobS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: BobS
They’s be back. After they find out how long the line is at the emergency room for tummy aches and sniffly noses.

The asylum seekers and their families should help the Canadian national health system run more smoothly.

Colds and such should be seen at the ER of course, just like here in the USA.

Oh ya, and the anchor babies.

49 posted on 09/19/2007 6:48:32 PM PDT by wanderin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax
Interesting read. Especially as Windsor is also a motor city. Chrysler has a large plant there. I hope to help Chrysler this fall and buy one. They have an unemployment problem, though not drastic.

I can honestly state that Canadians have not generally commented on the actions of Americans at their southern border. The general view of Canadians that I read of and know is this:

If we Canadians demand the right to accept or reject entry to Canada, then we indeed ENCOURAGE proper control of the borders. This for both countries.

Ah well back to a bit of Charles Portis, an Arkansas novelist and his book about Mexico. Titled.



50 posted on 09/19/2007 6:50:33 PM PDT by Peter Libra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wanderin

That’s the point. Fill up those emergency rooms up there with people that only know Spanish and don’t pay for the care. Let’s see what citizens with real needs do. Or see how many put up with people dying on gurneys on the floor.

51 posted on 09/19/2007 6:57:51 PM PDT by BobS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
"They can feel the pain instead."

From your lips to God's ears.

If the trend toward state enforcement of immigration law continues to build, Canada will have far more than a few thousand in their midst. We should not let them deport these people through our territory or air space. Let them transport them by sea (not stopping at our ports) and by round-about air routes. And let's be sure to chide them about their cruelty to these poor little invaders who only want to break their laws and suck up all their resources.

52 posted on 09/19/2007 7:30:38 PM PDT by Bonaparte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax

They can join the draft dodgers. This is hilarious!

53 posted on 09/19/2007 7:32:09 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182
"... got some payback for taking in the draft dodgers."

And for refusing to extradite all the killers, like Charles Ng, who fled there -- unless we agreed to enforce their anti-death penalty laws instead of our own. They're just as bad as the Mexicans. No respect for other people's laws.

54 posted on 09/19/2007 7:33:27 PM PDT by Bonaparte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: UglyinLA
You’re not kidding - they really haven’t seen but a drop in the ocean yet. For them to say they are “inundated” is comical. I want to see how the French Canadians deal when these spoiled illegals demand services in Spanish, as they enjoyed here.
55 posted on 09/19/2007 7:33:27 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (Build the fence, secure our borders, deport illegals - Protect our sovereignty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Bogtrotter52
"I love the thought of hoards of Mexicans heading for Canada."

Where they will freeze their butts off in Winter, LOL! And you can bet the reconquista crowd will follow them up there and agitate just like they've done down here. The demands will be strident and endless. The violent crime rate will also go up.

This is really a golden opportunity for us and we should act fast. Canada may be pinko but it's not stupid. They'll be shutting down their border soon. Now is the time for our states to start enforcing the laws the federal government breaks.

56 posted on 09/19/2007 7:38:46 PM PDT by Bonaparte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax


An American Expat in Southeast Asia

57 posted on 09/19/2007 7:40:23 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom
"They need immigrants to pick up the slack."

And to pull Canada even further to the left, further than their most militant communists ever dreamed they'd go.

58 posted on 09/19/2007 7:41:28 PM PDT by Bonaparte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax
Case of one Charles Ng.

Involved in the horrific torture murders with one Lake, I believe. Ng fled to Canada. He was arrested after shooting a security guard at a department store in the hand. He was shoplifting. He served two years.

Ok, ok so Americans did have a reason to get mad. The bleeding heart do-gooders did fight his extradition. The Americans might execute the dear boy, they bleated. Now here comes justice. A judge denied Ng's appeal and Ng's lawyers grinning,no doubt started to prepare papers to drag out more legalities.

The Canadian police had a helicopter outside the court. Ng was on his way to California, very quickly. He will rot in jail, but he has cost California 15 million dollars with his antics, using the legal system.

Boys oh boys, back to Gringos by Charles Portis.

59 posted on 09/19/2007 7:43:38 PM PDT by Peter Libra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pikamax

He’ll feel at home as far as the cliamte goes. With global warming, Toronto will feel just like Nogales in 10 years.

60 posted on 09/19/2007 7:50:27 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids (We'll stay out of your bedrooms, if you stay out of our children's classrooms.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794 is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson