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Enough NRA Bashing!
Pro-Gun New Hampshire ^ | 09/30/2007 | Evan Nappen, Attorney at Law

Posted on 10/02/2007 9:44:24 AM PDT by Revtwo

Misguided NRA bashers are doing a better job of helping the anti-gun movement than the anti-gunners could do themselves. You may have heard or read things like "NRA pushing gun control" or "NRA supporting bill to disarm veterans" or "NRA in bed with Schumer and Kennedy," etc. A number of gun rights organizations have generated a wave of criticism over HR 2640 and its supposedly terrible effect on gun ownership. They make the NRA sound so bad that Sarah Brady might even become a Life Member. The misinformed pro-gunners who spew this venom are shooting our gun rights in the foot and potentially stopping thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens from regaining their gun rights.

NRA deserves PRAISE for HR 2640. In the aftermath of the atrocity at Virginia Tech, the NRA was able to turn a renewed anti-gun hysteria into a pro-gun gain. HR 2640 is a shrewdly devised bill that creates no new prohibited persons, limits records, helps veterans, and mandates a system of relief so that disqualified persons can legally own guns again. But hey, don't just take my word for it. This is why Josh Sugarmann, founder and executive director of the rabidly anti-gun Violence Policy Center (VPC), OPPOSES HR 2640.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; nra; rkba
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1 posted on 10/02/2007 9:44:29 AM PDT by Revtwo
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To: Revtwo
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2 posted on 10/02/2007 9:50:42 AM PDT by attackcartoons
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To: Revtwo

I’ve been saying this very thing about all the recent GAO fundraising material. If they attacked anti-gun groups as often or as aggresively as they do the NRA, we’d probably all be better off.


3 posted on 10/02/2007 10:47:42 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell

Well, I too certainly wish the Government Accounting Office would attack anti-gun groups!


4 posted on 10/02/2007 10:54:01 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Revtwo

I have read what both the NRA and the GOA have to say about this bill, and I find the GOA position more convincing. The primary reason is the text of the 2nd Amendment, specifically, “shall not be abridged”. If you disagree, please explain your views. Otherwise, I will continue to place my three calls to Washington, three times each week, and ask my reps to oppose this act.


5 posted on 10/02/2007 11:12:55 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: Revtwo

Most of the NRA bashing has come impotent fringe groups trying to raise funds. These little groups seem to put their own fund raising above the rights of gun owners. The sad part is the few Freepers who think they’re doing the right thing by bashing the NRA.


6 posted on 10/02/2007 11:22:07 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Revtwo

NRA spells it all out in their magazines

Made sense to me


7 posted on 10/02/2007 12:10:50 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Revtwo

I have to go with the NRA, there record has been to good on the subject.


8 posted on 10/02/2007 12:41:14 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: tcostell
Ive read a little from both camps, and can only say that I'm so friggin hard headed that I just cant stand any compromise on 2A issues, so my gut tells me the NRA is selling out.

OTOH,'GAO' [lol] shouldnt bash a common ally in the name of $$$s, which is why I dropped membership in NRA twice. [Seemed every two weeks they had a hand out]

to me, when all is said and done, the new 'law' is just another infringment, written so obscurely that no layman could possibly wade through all of the laweresque interpretations of what the word 'is' , is without a trust fund and a generation or two worth of time to kill.

Both of the children outta learn to play nice and focus on hitting the bully [liberal nannystate tyrannical gov.] in the mouth and refuse to support any platform of gun control...

9 posted on 10/02/2007 1:12:11 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: MainFrame65
I too believe in the 2nd Amendment and I have dedicated my life and career to defending it. The problem is that at the moment we have about 20,000 “infringements” that we have to deal with. We lost or freedom incrementally and we will have to gain them back the same way, unless the playing field substantially changes, e.g. SCOTUS putting some teeth into KABA. Till then I look at proposed laws and say “Is it a gain for gun rights?” In this case it is a gain, and a dramatic one at that. Thousands of folks will be given a chance to have their rights restored who right now have lost them due to this federal mental health disqualifer. Look, would I like to see all the gun laws wiped off the books? Hell yes. But it just isn’t going happen that way. This law creates no new disqualifers or prohibited persons. The Code prohibiting these folks is already in force and has been in place for many years. HR 2460 puts an interim fix on it and will immediately help thousands of folks in the short run. Eventually I’d like to see massive reform, but for now this bill makes lemonade out of the lemon of VT. It deserves our support and not to be mischaracterized and used as a fund raising attack vehicle against the NRA.
10 posted on 10/02/2007 2:27:28 PM PDT by Revtwo
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To: coloradan
LOL ...oops.
Shows you what happens when dyslexics skip lunch.
11 posted on 10/02/2007 3:04:10 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Gilbo_3
I get that.... if you read my posts on the gazillion other threads on this topic, I make it clear that I can appreciate the value of having some of your people take the 'no compromise' view. It isn't about that for me. It's really about the GOA being prepared to sacrifice it's own credibility (and that of Gun Owners in general) in an effort to score points against an ally.

I don't dispute the position ....(well ok I do... but not here) but I take exception to the tactic.

12 posted on 10/02/2007 3:08:28 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell

I have asked the members of the GOA to knock off the criticism but that went to deaf ears. Now I ask just what the GOA actually does besides send out emails and ask for more money.

I have yet to get an answer and selling t-shirts with a snappy slogan doesn’t cut it.

The one group that has my respect besides the NRA is the Second Amendment Foundation. They know how to cooperate and get things done.


13 posted on 10/02/2007 3:44:46 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Agreed.


14 posted on 10/02/2007 4:42:27 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: TexasBiscuit

Castle Doctrine.
CCW laws.
End of the Assault Weapons Ban.
Manufacturer’s Protection Act.

Your turn. Prove it. Explain what your group has ever accomplished.

Take your time. I’ll check in once in awhile.


16 posted on 10/02/2007 7:24:17 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: ontap
I have to go with the NRA, there record has been to good on the subject.

Why didn't the NRA criticize the Lautenberg Abomination until well after it had been passed and signed?

17 posted on 10/02/2007 8:40:33 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Fudds like Joaquin Jackson on their board of directors doesn't help the NRA's position in a lot of the shooting communities eyes. The NRA support for various gun control schemes over the years has been bandied about on a dozen boards. Including this one.

The NRA WILL compromise if it thinks it can advance some power position or another. Compromising our Rights away a little at a time is better than a lot at a time, but we are still "advancing" in the wrong direction.

18 posted on 10/02/2007 9:00:07 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: MainFrame65
MainFrame65 said: “shall not be abridged”.

Did you attend the same Constitutional law class as Rooty Juliannie? Last time I looked, it was "shall not be infringed", not "shall not be abridged" or "the people shall be secure...".

19 posted on 10/02/2007 9:17:07 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Dead Corpse

There are over seventy members of the board. Jackson was elected on his law enforcement merits. I won’t vote for him again.

The NRA gets more things done in a month than the rest of the gun groups combined. That’s a fact.

An organization that can’t get things done is useless no matter what their cute little slogans say. So go back to the sidelines where you belong.


20 posted on 10/03/2007 5:04:41 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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