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27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC

If Rudy Giuliani wins the Republican nomination and a third party campaign is backed by Christian conservative leaders, 27% of Republican voters say they’d vote for the third party option rather than Giuliani. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that a three-way race with Hillary Clinton would end up with the former First Lady getting 46% of the vote, Giuliani with 30% and the third-party option picking up 14%. In head-to-head match-ups with Clinton, Giuliani is much more competitive.

Over this past weekend, several Christian conservative leaders indicated they might back a pro-life, third-party, candidate if Giuliani wins the nomination.

The latest poll highlights the potential challenges for Giuliani, but the numbers must be considered in context. A generic third-party candidate may attract 14% of the vote in the abstract at this time. However, if a specific candidate is chosen, that person would likely attract less support due to a variety of factors. Almost all third party candidates poll higher earlier in a campaign and their numbers diminish as election day approaches. Ultimately, of course, some Republicans would have to face the question of whether to vote for Giuliani or help elect a Democrat.

The telephone survey found that 17% of Republicans believe it’s Very Likely conservative leaders would back a Pro-Life candidate if Giuliani is nominated. Another 32% believe it is Somewhat Likely. Among all voters, 22% think a third party approach is Very Likely and another 33% say it’s Somewhat Likely.

Most Republican voters consider themselves Pro-Life on the issue of Abortion. Most Democrats and Unaffiliated Voters are Pro-Choice.

The bigger question for Giuliani might be how this possible challenge from the right might affect perceptions of his electability. Currently, Giuliani is seen as the most electable Republican candidate which helps overcome concerns that some have about his ideology. A survey conducted earlier this month found that 72% of Republicans think Giuliani is at least Somewhat Likely to win the White House if nominated. However, the current survey finds that number falling to 58% if Christian conservatives back a third-party option.

With a third-party option on the table, only 18% of Republicans believe Giuliani would be Very Likely to win the election if nominated. That’s down from 31% in a two-way race.

Among all voters, 49% say Giuliani is at least Somewhat Likely to win a two-way match-up. That falls to 43% with a third party candidate in the mix.

Electability is a crucial issue for Giuliani because two-thirds of Republican voters seen him as politically moderate or liberal. That is a challenge unto itself in a political party where most primary voters consider themselves politically conservative. Fred Thompson is currently viewed as the most conservative candidate in the field.

Three of the last four Presidential elections have seen a candidate win with less than 50% of the total votes cast. If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic Presidential nomination, there is a very reasonable possibility that neither major party candidate would top the 50% mark in Election 2008. With such a scenario, third party candidates on either side of the political spectrum could play a significant role by peeling away one or two percentage points of the vote.

Clinton is currently leading the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination, but her victory is not inevitable. Among Republicans, Thompson and Giuliani lead in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

If you mean me, I am definitely not pro-abort.


321 posted on 10/04/2007 2:10:53 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: woollyone
Even if a FT is nominated, we will have trouble beating the triumphant return of King Bill and Hill.

They have been working for a 3rd and 4th term since the day he left.

They are extremely angry about his Impeachment, and want payback.

And Hill and Bill KNOW modern day Americans, and KNOW most Americans WANT universal healthcare, and other goodies.

They also have their “WAR ROOM”, ie, the entire media, academia and Hollywood.

So it really matters not who we nominate at all.

Our mission at FR should be to destroy the MSM, completely discredit all of them, reporter by reporter.

FR should be funding ads against the MSM right now.

322 posted on 10/04/2007 2:14:07 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: TitansAFC

third party like Bloomberg?


323 posted on 10/04/2007 2:16:42 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Mariner

Nobody is “threatening” anything. We are STATING an iron clad, irrefutable FACT!

CONSERVATIVES DO NOT VOTE FOR LIBERALS, BE THEY SOCIAL OR FISCAL!


324 posted on 10/04/2007 2:20:01 PM PDT by Grunthor (I'd be Catholic but I don't speak latin and don't wanna learn just to go to church.)
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To: TitansAFC
So it says. I will tell you something, take that poll again with Hillary staring you in the face. Do you really want to cut your nose off to spite your face, just to "give them a lesson", and have Hillary as President, and just maybe, filabuster proof majorities in both houses of congress?

Personally, I am backing the candidate who has the best chance to beat the democrats. Right now that is Fred Thompson. However, whoever gets the GOP nomination will get my vote, because the alternative is irrevelentcy. Your views won't matter! The democrats will simply steamroll over what we believe and when they are done, we will live in socialist europe.

So all you ideologues out there better be sure; the world with Giuliani as President would be a conservative utopia compared to the alternative...

Mike

325 posted on 10/04/2007 2:20:34 PM PDT by MichaelP (The Big Picture IS important!)
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To: Mariner
should start your party now.

If I thought your analysis was correct, I would be doing that right now!

326 posted on 10/04/2007 2:22:59 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: Man50D

“A socialist is a socialist regardless of whether there is an R or D after the name! “

Hillary is a definite socialist (or worse). I don’t think Rudy would be any more of a socialist than Bush (No Child Left Behind, Medicare Drug Bill, lack of border enforcement, etc). But I would much rather have a big government Republican that will keep us safe than a bigger-government liberal who will get us killed.

The federal government has grown (spending, regulations, etc) under every President regardless of party. I would welcome a real third party alternative that has a chance, but unfortunately the reality is two parties and a choice of one or the other.


327 posted on 10/04/2007 2:24:28 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I suspect you knew that when you were supporting him a few months ago.

Back then there were only 3 horses in the race, and I didn't know the extent of his left-wing views until he imploded on CNN with the support for taxpayer funding of abortions.

328 posted on 10/04/2007 2:25:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! NFL's all-time touchdown leader)
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To: Dudoight
You don’t care if Hillary wins.

I ain't scared of a Hillary presidency, unlike you guys who whine for your Mommas whenever she's mentioned.

329 posted on 10/04/2007 2:26:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! NFL's all-time touchdown leader)
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To: TitansAFC

I seriously doubt christian right to lifers can get a 4th party candidate por-life single issue candidate on the ballot in 50 states.

I say 4th party because its far more likely you see someone like Bloomberg buy their way in to 3rd party ticket as an independent sucking up the oxygen.


330 posted on 10/04/2007 2:26:58 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
In the history of American politics, has a candidate for his party’s nomination ever announced his third party contingency plans in the middle of the primary?

Dr. Paul promised his wife of 50 years that he would not run as a 3rd party or independent candidate, and I'll take his word over the rest of the so-called Republicans who spin like Maytag washers.

331 posted on 10/04/2007 2:28:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! NFL's all-time touchdown leader)
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To: bassmaner
we will no longer recognize the United States of America.

There is a question as to whether the US could or SHOULD survive with a unanimously pro-abortion political system.

I fear for my country when I reflect that God is just--Thomas Jefferson

332 posted on 10/04/2007 2:28:31 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: OESY
There is no surer way to cement Roe v. Wade as the law of the land than by voting for a third-party candidate and ensuring Hillary's election. Her replacements for Stevens, Souder, Ginsburg and possibly Scalia will lock in the liberal pro-abortion stance for decades. Third- party advocates should come out and say it: They love abortions because they want the issue.

"Always vote on principle, though you may vote alone, but you may cherish the sweet reflection that your vote is never lost."

333 posted on 10/04/2007 2:31:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! NFL's all-time touchdown leader)
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To: Grunthor
CONSERVATIVES DO NOT VOTE FOR LIBERALS, BE THEY SOCIAL OR FISCAL!

This socially conservative/fiscally liberal(or vice versa) term is a bunch of baloney! That is a euphemistic term for moderate. Moderate is another term for socialist. You can't support holding the line government programs while at the same time support spending large sums of money to for those programs. Either a person is a conservative or a liberal.
334 posted on 10/04/2007 2:31:40 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: roses of sharon

Ain’t nuttin principled about giving the country to hillary.


335 posted on 10/04/2007 2:33:36 PM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: TitansAFC

Cool. I was looking for the meeting place for all of those folks who wanted to cut off their nose to spite their face.


336 posted on 10/04/2007 2:33:59 PM PDT by hoyaloya
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Always vote on principle, though you may vote alone, but you may cherish the sweet reflection that your vote is never lost."

But if your vote "on principle" accomplishes not only nothing, but has brought about a worse outcome, then you and your efforts are a failure.

337 posted on 10/04/2007 2:34:19 PM PDT by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: scarface367
But if your vote "on principle" accomplishes not only nothing, but has brought about a worse outcome, then you and your efforts are a failure.

My vote on principle means that I refuse the accept the quasi-socialist status quo that Rudy-toots is pushing, and the subsequent demise of the GOP.

You can vote for this fascist authoritarian freakazoid who invokes 9/11 like John Kerry invokes Vietnam, but my vote and support will go elsewhere.

338 posted on 10/04/2007 2:39:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! NFL's all-time touchdown leader)
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To: joonbug
Hillary is a definite socialist (or worse). I don’t think Rudy would be any more of a socialist than Bush (No Child Left Behind, Medicare Drug Bill, lack of border enforcement, etc). But I would much rather have a big government Republican that will keep us safe than a bigger-government liberal who will get us killed.

So you admit the GOP has socialists. By all means, let's settle for some socialism to prevent too much socialism. That only creates a gray area where The question then becomes when is there too much? Your type of thinking reflects the slippery slope the GOP has followed for decades and has resulted in the socialism creep now present in the Republican party. By your line of thinking a small house fire is OK because it would prevent a bigger house fire. The GOP should be focusing on putting out the fire by eliminating socialists from the party.
339 posted on 10/04/2007 2:42:50 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Cosmo; roses of sharon
Ain’t nuttin principled about giving the country to hillary.

There's nothing principled about giving the country to socialists, be they Republican or Democrat.
340 posted on 10/04/2007 2:46:32 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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