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To: Bob J

Well, that may be your opinion, but in your world where only your opinions and your rights are considered it may be functional. What about the opinions and rights of your employer and his customers?
***I’ve noticed that with gun ownership & carry conversations, the topic immediately gets moved to utilitarian levels. You point out that your opponent’s viewpoint is somehow not “functional” and don’t apply in the real world. Here’s an example: I was talking to an acquaintance when we were at a church camping trip, pointing out that we have the right to keep & bear arms. He said that if the ranger came around and saw that I had a gun, I wouldn’t be able to keep it for long. Note that the argument is no longer on whether or not I have that right, just whether or not it survives contact with someone whose job it is to enforce the law and the constitution. So I suggested that the enforcement only exists with sissy law enforcement officers in place, because when they ran across a group of Hell’s Angels camping [yes I have personally seen this], they did nothing nor said nothing about all the guns these guys were showing off. Those Hell’s Angels characters were exercising their rights and a lone camper has the same rights, but law enforcement officers can get a good feather in their cap if they bring in one concealed carry guy and further their career. LEOs don’t like to take on guys like the Hell’s Angels because they have more of a chance of getting hurt.

In your world, the utilitarian argument against your position would be something like this: If the NRA slapped a hefty lawsuit on your business and put protesters on the entrance to your property to discourage business, you’d reconsider your decision to take away 2nd Amendment rights from your employees.

I’m also an employer with hundreds of employees and don’t allow any of them to carry while on duty.
***Are there any other rights delineated in the constitution which you deny your employees? Any 1st amendment rights? How about the 14th amendment? Are you proud of your position with respect to not allowing your employees to exercise their rights?


137 posted on 10/08/2007 10:09:43 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

What is your position on private property rights?


139 posted on 10/08/2007 10:44:37 AM PDT by Bob J (sis)
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